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I’m currently considering using a NY Bach 50 slide as my main slide with my 42, but want to test a bunch of lead pipes before making that decision. I currently have a BrassArk MV50 on the way. Are there are other focused/tight bass bone lead pipes that would be similar to the MV50? (Note I’m a tenor trombonist) thanks

Edwards or shires 1. Mv50 is pretty tight.

MK Drawing also has a pipe based on a MV 50. That could be an option to compare.

J

Burgerbob wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:09 pm Edwards or shires 1. Mv50 is pretty tight.

The Edwards B1L is even "more" focused than the B1.

JMudge wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:31 pm MK Drawing also has a pipe based on a MV 50. That could be an option to compare.

J

The average mv pipe is not tight. The brassark is.

You would be hard pressed to find a tighter bass pipe than the MV50 from Brass Ark. The M/K version is noticeably more open. FWIW, I have on good authority that a noted instrument maker measured the venturi of the BA pipe and found it to be smaller than some of his tenor pipes.

If you want REALLY focused, try to find a King duo gravis pipe. I think that's what I have...ex Phil Teele...king for sure...uber focused.

I have both Brass Ark MV50 (drawn red brass) and MK50 lead pipes (both nickel and brass). They have been great for me. I don't notice the M/K being more open. But I have found it necessary to shorten each of these by about 1/2" or so to get the results I want. Probably that's just me. On my cheesy Schiller 7B clone (red brass bell), the Brass Ark MV50 worked great for concert band, but the nickel M/K 50 worked best for big band. However, on my Getzen (yellow brass bell), the brass M/K 50 seems to be best. You need to experiment. M/K does, at least, have a trial and return policy.

BassBoneFL wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:59 am You would be hard pressed to find a tighter bass pipe than the MV50 from Brass Ark. The M/K version is noticeably more open. FWIW, I have on good authority that a noted instrument maker measured the venturi of the BA pipe and found it to be smaller than some of his tenor pipes.

Hopefully they were comparing T3 sized pipes to the MV50 and not more average sized tenor pipes

Burgerbob wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:28 pm

JMudge wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:31 pm MK Drawing also has a pipe based on a MV 50. That could be an option to compare.

J

The average mv pipe is not tight. The brassark is.

Thanks for that info. I wasn’t aware.

When I use a Conn 562 slide on my tenor I found the GR 2 leadpipe to give enough resistance to make the sound more "tenory".. Don't know if it is the tightest, but I am sure it is up there!