Rotor Swap Question

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Cmiertschin
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Hey all, my 3BF's valve casing has been messed up at some point in prior ownership, and my tech has recommended replacement when possible. It's functionally usable right now, just a little janky. I'm considering swapping in an Instrument Innovations rotor (and probably messing with the wrap to account for different sizes of parts); other option of course is finding a donor bell section and swapping rotors out. My horn has the two vertical ports (late 60's and quite "well-loved"), so adjustments would need to be made with a new 3BF rotor anyway. Thoughts on the I.I. swap? Or other possible alternatives? This horn is quite well-used, only reason I'm considering going a little wild with it.
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I don't think Olsen makes a rotor in .530. The .562 large tenor rotor would be much, much too large for that application.
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I think the smallest after market valve I’ve seen in that size is Voight. Hagmann also sell a 530 but is obviously not even close to drop replacement
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Your best bet would be to find a donor horn. Obviously a 3BF valve would be the preferred option, but one from a small-bore Olds with an f-attachment might also work (they're .515" and have the same general port configuration as the early 3BF rotors).
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You might have luck in finding one on here from someone who decides to convert their 3B/F to a straight 3B? Every so often that idea comes up. It‘s worth a WTB/ISO post in the classifieds at least.
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Thanks for the thoughts everyone, I'll probably look for a donor horn or valve section.
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Cmiertschin wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 11:25 amMy horn has the two vertical ports...
So the OP's 3BF has the original valve layout, like this:
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as opposed to the new valve design, like this:
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so a using the new style valve wouldn't be just a drop-in.
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What's the bore size on the 36H valve? Would that work?
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I think I have what you need, bought it for a project but ended up not using it. Shoot me an email if you're interested.
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