Suggestions on trombone stands?

ttf_Matt K · Post by **ttf_Matt K** » Tue May 16, 2017 11:44 am

Quote from: chipolah on May 16, 2017, 10:50AMI have a K&M 14990 and I like it. But... I now have a Wessex trombone stand and it is much sturdier than the K&M. It is far better for a bass trombone. It is based on a cymbal stand bottom and a trombone stand top. It is not expensive.
This guy?

http://www.wessex-tubas.com/shop/accessories/stands/trombone-stand/

ttf_bonenick · Post by **ttf_bonenick** » Tue May 16, 2017 11:49 am

does the wessex tuba company have a dealr in Turkey or Bulgaria?

ttf_chipolah · Post by **ttf_chipolah** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:09 pm

Quote from: Matt K on May 16, 2017, 11:44AMThis guy?

http://www.wessex-tubas.com/shop/accessories/stands/trombone-stand/
Yes... That's the one. It's more heavy-duty than the K&M stand. The legs will open up more than the photo and the top is adjustable. The stand is chrome.

Wessex does not have a dealer in Bulgaria or in any of the Balkan countries. Wessex sells on line instead of through dealers to keep the prices down.

ttf_Matt K · Post by **ttf_Matt K** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:22 pm

Quote from: chipolah on May 16, 2017, 02:09PMYes... That's the one. It's more heavy-duty than the K&M stand. The legs will open up more than the photo and the top is adjustable. The stand is chrome.

Wessex does not have a dealer in Bulgaria or in any of the Balkan countries. Wessex sells on line instead of through dealers to keep the prices down.

Good deal I'll order one tonight. I ran over my k and m stand and it hasn't been the same since!!

ttf_crazytrombonist505 · Tue May 16, 2017 2:24 pm

Quote from: Matt K on May 16, 2017, 02:22PMI ran over my k and m stand and it hasn't been the same since!!

ttf_sabutin · Post by **ttf_sabutin** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:01 pm

Quote from: chipolah on May 16, 2017, 02:09PMYes... That's the one. It's more heavy-duty than the K&M stand. The legs will open up more than the photo and the top is adjustable. The stand is chrome.

Wessex does not have a dealer in Bulgaria or in any of the Balkan countries. Wessex sells on line instead of through dealers to keep the prices down.

I did a web search for that stand...nothing under $100, about $80 of which was shipping from China.

Am I missing something?

S.

ttf_bonenick · Post by **ttf_bonenick** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:26 pm

Quote from: sabutin on May 16, 2017, 03:01PMI did a web search for that stand...nothing under $100, about $80 of which was shipping from China.

Am I missing something?

S.

IMHO, They don't quite the feel the need to expand the network and can't be bothered for the moment - which is normal, they seem to be a relatively new brand (at least to my knowledge).

ttf_Matt K · Post by **ttf_Matt K** » Tue May 16, 2017 4:01 pm

Ouch, yeah I didn't see the shipping. If you can figure out a way to get it to my door for no more than the cost of the stand itself I'll definitely give it a shot!!

ttf_chipolah · Post by **ttf_chipolah** » Wed May 17, 2017 1:59 am

OK... We have the stand in stock in England. The price of the stand including shipping to the US will be around $40, give or take $1 or $2 either way, because I don't know the exact shipping cost.I'll find that out in a day or two. If you are interested, contact me directly and I'll take care of it for you. [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]

ttf_bonenick · Post by **ttf_bonenick** » Wed May 17, 2017 3:17 am

Quote from: chipolah on Yesterday at 01:59 AMOK... We have the stand in stock in England. The price of the stand including shipping to the US will be around $40, give or take $1 or $2 either way, because I don't know the exact shipping cost.I'll find that out in a day or two. If you are interested, contact me directly and I'll take care of it for you. [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]

How about shipping to Turkey? Is it about the same?

ttf_SilverBone · Post by **ttf_SilverBone** » Wed May 17, 2017 3:24 am

Maybe it would be cheaper to ship a batch of these to a US distributor? Maybe there's enough people willing to preorder?

ttf_chipolah · Post by **ttf_chipolah** » Wed May 17, 2017 4:31 am

Quote from: SilverBone on May 17, 2017, 03:24AMMaybe it would be cheaper to ship a batch of these to a US distributor? Maybe there's enough people willing to preorder?
I've checked on the shipping cost and it is $25.oo from England to the US. The shipping is for size, not weight. So... the stands are $20.oo and the shipping is $25.oo. Total $45.oo. If you buy 2 stands, or 3 stands, or however many you can fit in the box, the shipping price would be $25.oo for the box. We have a US warehouse in Michigan. They might have some. Shipping prices might vary according to the method you use for shipping, but the $25.oo from England (FedEx) is the same as FedEx within the US. If someone wants to order a batch of them and send them off to others, let me know and I can arrange it and at the same time, let you know how many will go into one box.

I don't know the exact shipping price to Turkey, but it is less than to the US. If you are interested, let me know and I will find out the exact price.

ttf_BillO · Post by **ttf_BillO** » Wed May 17, 2017 6:53 am

It's unfortunate you use FedEX. That would be a deal breaker for me. FedEX will charge you $25 at your end (which of course you charge to your customer) then they will charge me another $25+ at my end brokerage, forwarding and handling. I've been burnt by FedEX and UPS too many times. Not sure how it is with them when receiving stuff from abroad in the States, but here in Canada the gouging is legendary.

Have you ever considered using Her Majesty's Post?

ttf_chipolah · Post by **ttf_chipolah** » Wed May 17, 2017 7:41 am

Quote from: BillO on May 17, 2017, 06:53AMIt's unfortunate you use FedEX. That would be a deal breaker for me. FedEX will charge you $25 at your end (which of course you charge to your customer) then they will charge me another $25+ at my end brokerage, forwarding and handling. I've been burnt by FedEX and UPS too many times. Not sure how it is with them when receiving stuff from abroad in the States, but here in Canada the gouging is legendary.

Have you ever considered using Her Majesty's Post?
Hi Bill... We have used the Royal Mail in the past and it costs about the same and sometimes more. And... it takes MUCH longer. If you want me to, I will go to the Post Office with a stand in a box and find out how much it would be to Canada. (you're not committed to buy. It's just for both of us to know how much it will cost and how long it will take) What's your postcode? Regards... Chip

ttf_BillO · Post by **ttf_BillO** » Wed May 17, 2017 8:20 am

E-mail sent.

ttf_Matt K · Post by **ttf_Matt K** » Thu May 18, 2017 3:22 am

US (and maybe CA) People:

I have several interested in a shipment of these (5). PM / email me asap and I'll add you to that list and I'll ship it to you at cost (stand + shipping to you). I'm located in WV, will be travelling to NYC, Pittsburgh, Toronto, and Ottowa in the coming months. I could arrange to drop it off somewhere instead of shipping.

ttf_Matt K · Post by **ttf_Matt K** » Fri May 19, 2017 5:57 pm

Hey Chipolah,

Just sent you an e-mail. Have a number of US people interested in doing an order!! Get back to us when you get a chance and we'll get it squared away!

ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Wed May 24, 2017 3:27 am

some o the new hamiltons ////MADE IN VIETNAM OUTTA RECYCLED HELICOPTER and shell caseings !!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: sabutin on Apr 27, 2017, 04:39PMYeah...but...

My several month old Hamilton's screw tighteners are already pretty well worn out and the cup suppoprt for the bell that's supposed to be adjustable never worked.

A large piece of crap, basically. I'm using it...using tape to set the lengths...but REALLY!!!

They probably sent you and Posaunus extra feet because they can't read very well.

Sorry...I get pissed off when things that I pay for don't work. If I played like they are now making trombone stands I'd be working as a fry cook now.

S.

ttf_bonenick · Post by **ttf_bonenick** » Wed May 24, 2017 3:38 am

Quote from: dj kennedy on May 24, 2017, 03:27AM

some o the new hamiltons ////MADE IN VIETNAM OUTTA RECYCLED HELICOPTER and shell caseings !!!!!!!!!!!!

Better made in Russia made of recycled AK-47 - could be very, very multi-functional.....

ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Wed May 24, 2017 3:42 am

that wessex looks great for a studio stand ///even w shipping to us its a good valve
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when i was in hs --i asked mr b if there was any broke drum gear and made a stand
bach then it was k&m w a blach wood ball w wool felt and little wools on the things that stuck out to put
bell on //thumb screw //nickle plated
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over time dust and rust well there were different designs of the legs and varnished wood for bigger bones
i got jimmy archies stand and couple mutes w the ring mute holder
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in this whole thread //nothin //no history //it never happened //no pics ///no licks
there is some real junk out there
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well what i would like is a redo of one[or more ] of the early k&m
a lt in aluminum maybe how about carbon fiber //titanium
w some bicycle technology
come on GET WITH IT --A GRADE SCHOOL KID COULD DESIGN A BETTER STAND
somethin to think about at mickies while droppin french fries in the hot oil

ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Wed May 24, 2017 3:43 am

i would buy 5 of these !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Chipolah,

Just sent you an e-mail. Have a number of US people interested in doing an order!! Get back to us when you get a chance and we'll get it squared away!

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ttf_BillO · Post by **ttf_BillO** » Wed May 24, 2017 6:57 am

Quote from: Matt K on May 18, 2017, 03:22AMUS (and maybe CA) People:

I have several interested in a shipment of these (5). PM / email me asap and I'll add you to that list and I'll ship it to you at cost (stand + shipping to you). I'm located in WV, will be travelling to NYC, Pittsburgh, Toronto, and Ottowa in the coming months. I could arrange to drop it off somewhere instead of shipping.
Unfortunately both Ottawa and Toronto are quite far from where I am. Thanks for the offer though Matt. I wonder if Chip was able to find out about the Royal Post?

ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:41 pm

chip sent 5 stands --and just unpacked them---
sent by fedex !!!!!!!!small heavy box------very nice --- super gripper rubber feet
very strong base triangle w double chromed legs much like the k&m
spring loaded bell rest --------
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very stable and can have a smaller or wider set up
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cost on the five shipped was25x5 + 50
so any of you with trombone studios or needs can order for your bone buddies
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improvements i would make in design --slightly larger thumb bolt diameter on the adjustments and
forget the light domed height adjust knob and just use the same size thumb tightener
the top of bottom section is really beefy !!!!!!!!!!!
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i have many new newer and vintage stands
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of course i would like to see lighter weight stands made with camera tripod materials
my favorites are the simple vintage stands for bach 6 2b holton 65 martin committee
besson conn 24h//4h//12h 6h la williams and moderns rath shires bac edwards straight small bores
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i think better stands can be made --function first --ergonomics that incorporate
features used in bicycle construction so i feel that a bicycle designer actually
could come up with a great stand with off shelf designs such as used on seatposts
as well as great tube --and probably be very competitive with other designs
and not over engineered or much higher cost
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i have bought many cheep stands for ''student use'' but encourage the buyers of such
not to consider the lowest price but long term durability
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the wessex has a few flaws but the basics are there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks CHIP !!!!!!!!!!

ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:41 pm

chip sent 5 stands --and just unpacked them---
sent by fedex !!!!!!!!small heavy box------very nice --- super gripper rubber feet
very strong base triangle w double chromed legs much like the k&m
spring loaded bell rest --------
---------------------------------------------
very stable and can have a smaller or wider set up
---------------------------------------------
cost on the five shipped was25x5 + 50
so any of you with trombone studios or needs can order for your bone buddies
----------------
improvements i would make in design --slightly larger thumb bolt diameter on the adjustments and
forget the light domed height adjust knob and just use the same size thumb tightener
the top of bottom section is really beefy !!!!!!!!!!!
----------------------------
i have many new newer and vintage stands
---------------------------------------------------
of course i would like to see lighter weight stands made with camera tripod materials
my favorites are the simple vintage stands for bach 6 2b holton 65 martin committee
besson conn 24h//4h//12h 6h la williams and moderns rath shires bac edwards straight small bores
----------------
i think better stands can be made --function first --ergonomics that incorporate
features used in bicycle construction so i feel that a bicycle designer actually
could come up with a great stand with off shelf designs such as used on seatposts
as well as great tube --and probably be very competitive with other designs
and not over engineered or much higher cost
-----------------------------
i have bought many cheep stands for ''student use'' but encourage the buyers of such
not to consider the lowest price but long term durability
--------------------------
the wessex has a few flaws but the basics are there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks CHIP !!!!!!!!!!