Calder Tone Halo initial review
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Calder Tone Halo initial review
I bought one of these little guys a couple weeks ago. I've been trying it on some horns, with the real purpose of using it on the yamaha 830 I have to use at work currently. It's not a good instrument and I'm always looking for ways to make it better!
On horns that I already like, the tone halo doesn't seem to add a lot other than weight. I can feel the sound resonate off the sides of the bell less and that's about all. It's like adding a counterweight tk a horn that doesn't need it- things change but not in a necessarily positive way.
On horns that need some help (like this 830 and a friend's 448G), everything is improved. The bell doesn't waste energy vibrating on problem notes, the sound has more density, and on the 830 especially response is improved all over the instrument. I have been using it all the time at work; yesterday i let another band member use it for a set and the difference was dramatic on my end. The horn was markedly worse.
On the 448G, the sound difference was immediate; my friend reported feeling different feedback of course, but we heard a much more centered, less diffuse sound on the other side.
The weight balance change is not great. After all, it's like adding a screw ring to a bell. It's going to add weight way out in front and to the left.
Here's a super duper high equality photo of it on the work 830:
On horns that I already like, the tone halo doesn't seem to add a lot other than weight. I can feel the sound resonate off the sides of the bell less and that's about all. It's like adding a counterweight tk a horn that doesn't need it- things change but not in a necessarily positive way.
On horns that need some help (like this 830 and a friend's 448G), everything is improved. The bell doesn't waste energy vibrating on problem notes, the sound has more density, and on the 830 especially response is improved all over the instrument. I have been using it all the time at work; yesterday i let another band member use it for a set and the difference was dramatic on my end. The horn was markedly worse.
On the 448G, the sound difference was immediate; my friend reported feeling different feedback of course, but we heard a much more centered, less diffuse sound on the other side.
The weight balance change is not great. After all, it's like adding a screw ring to a bell. It's going to add weight way out in front and to the left.
Here's a super duper high equality photo of it on the work 830:
Aidan Ritchie, LA area player and teacher
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Re: Calder Tone Halo initial review
Very interesting. Seems like mostly everyone is happy with those at least on some horns. I thought about getting one for my Bach 36 where the bell could be dampened a bit especially with louder dynamics.
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Re: Calder Tone Halo initial review
Adding the weight to the throat near the brace is better, Aidan. I can make you one of mine in blue to match your uniform.
Here is one on high quality. Great mid-word shot.... :
On my 830 I had that area taped with weight and the spot where the bell usually is cut taped. Ugly as heck but it played better.
Here is one on high quality. Great mid-word shot.... :
On my 830 I had that area taped with weight and the spot where the bell usually is cut taped. Ugly as heck but it played better.
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Re: Calder Tone Halo initial review
Sorry, I realized that wording was not clear. It's a bit of both; on something like a bass, it is obvious but not game changing. On a small horn it can make a big difference for the worse.
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Re: Calder Tone Halo initial review
Received my Tone Halo yesterday and tried it on my 2B and medium bore pretzel bone.
Nice improvement on the 2B - high range slots better and low range sounds much fuller.
Not much difference on the f attachment monstrosity, but I do hear a clearer overall tone. As I rarely use the pretzel it's no big deal. VERY happy with the results on the 2B.
The Tone Halo gets the Big Daddy K Seal of Approval.
Nice improvement on the 2B - high range slots better and low range sounds much fuller.
Not much difference on the f attachment monstrosity, but I do hear a clearer overall tone. As I rarely use the pretzel it's no big deal. VERY happy with the results on the 2B.
The Tone Halo gets the Big Daddy K Seal of Approval.
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Re: Calder Tone Halo initial review
Where do you get this TONE HALO?
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Contact Calders Pips Grips on facebook.
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Re: Calder Tone Halo initial review
"When in doubt, blow out" - MSgt M.A. Mayo, Marine Band
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Re: Calder Tone Halo initial review
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Re: Calder Tone Halo initial review
I have received my callder – pips halo and put it on my 88H. I have had for
years of sympathetic ring in the bell on the G overtone series. The halo has completely stopped that while not totally deadening the horn. It plays great.
years of sympathetic ring in the bell on the G overtone series. The halo has completely stopped that while not totally deadening the horn. It plays great.
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