June 6 should be bass trombone day
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June 6 should be bass trombone day
Today is Dave Taylor's birthday.
If they were still with us, it would also be the 77th birthday of Phil Teele and the 85th birthday of my teacher, Ray Premru.
For those who don't know Ray's wonderful sound, here are some youtube videos to check out:
If they were still with us, it would also be the 77th birthday of Phil Teele and the 85th birthday of my teacher, Ray Premru.
For those who don't know Ray's wonderful sound, here are some youtube videos to check out:
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Agreed. Make it so!
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I think there was a somewhat bigger event on June 6th 75 years ago.
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Por que no los dos?Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:17 pm I think there was a somewhat bigger event on June 6th 75 years ago.
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I would argue that those great bass trombone masters would not be able to practice their craft if it hadn't been for sacrifices of the military personnel on D-Day. So no, not both.Burgerbob wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:13 pmPor que no los dos?Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:17 pm I think there was a somewhat bigger event on June 6th 75 years ago.
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That's a bit overblown. I'm not understating D-day, we're also honoring some of our bass trombone greats.
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Or perhaps you're under appreciating the impact of this day on our history and your ability to do the things you love doing, including making your videos and performing on trombone for a living without having to salute the Fatherland. Priorities, my friend.
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Well, that's a huge assumption you just made. I've been to Dachau. My great-grandfather flew missions in B-17s.
There's room for two things on one day.
There's room for two things on one day.
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I'm basing my statements on your posts. I never said not to honor bass trombonists, I referred to priorities and the priority for this day should be on remembering the sacrifices of people who were maimed and died and suffered from PTSD for the rest of their lives to allow you to do what you do. To allow all of to do what we do. I'm just suggesting a little respect.
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Respect for one thing does not mean disrespect for another.
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This went sideways quickly.
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Your reply didn't make much sense as I don't see how anyone has been disrespectful to you or the other bass trombonist in question. It seems I simply have a different view then you do about how certain days should be treated. I wish you all the best.
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All I said was "why not both?"
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Thanks for the post Gabe! I didn't know about the trombone quartet with Ray Premru, wonderful sound!GabeLangfur wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:15 pm Today is Dave Taylor's birthday.
If they were still with us, it would also be the 77th birthday of Phil Teele and the 85th birthday of my teacher, Ray Premru.
For those who don't know Ray's wonderful sound, here are some youtube videos to check out:
Cant get enough of it. Since so many prominent bass trombone players have birthday on 6 June, I vote for making it an official bass trombone day. And a free day for all of us with a bass trombone
Did you all know there is a day for everything? There is even a "popcorn day" May 10 is the "Clean up your room day". My children obvious missed that ....
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I think it's a fantastic idea.
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Is there any more recordings of Ray Premru hidden out there?
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He played on every James Bond film soundtrack until 1998.
I just learned he played on the original studio recordings of Petula Clark's "Downtown" and "My Love."
I believe he was on one or both of the Frank Sinatra live recordings from London.
You can't pick him out, but he played in the orchestra for The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper album.
He co-led a big band in London with Bobby Lamb:
http://www.jazzprofessional.com/intervi ... erview.htm
Of course, all the commercial recordings and live recordings of the Philip Jones Brass Ensemble.
And of course, recordings of the Philharmonia and New Philharmonia Orchestras (same orchestra, changed name for a while). If you want to hear the kind of power he could generate, listen to Vaughan Williams 4th Symphony with Sir Adrain Boult, recorded in the early 70s I think.
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Ooof that cycle of Ray playing the Vaughn Williams symphonies is ridonkulous. Amazing!
You can't ever listen to Philip Jones enough!
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He was co-leader of a big band/large jazz ensemble that did two albums. Long out of print, but I tracked them down on vinyl. It's your typical '60's power jazz, which I happen to love.
Here's a sample:
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Ooh, thanks for all links and information folks! Lot to explore!
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Congratulations to everyone on Bass Trombone Day!
It is surprising, but on June 6, the famous bass trombonist from the Bolshoi Theater Mikhail Deryugin was born.
https://www.mosconsv.ru/ru/person/31489
It is surprising, but on June 6, the famous bass trombonist from the Bolshoi Theater Mikhail Deryugin was born.
https://www.mosconsv.ru/ru/person/31489
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Philip Jones Brass Ensemble recordings were a huge influence on me as a young musician. Premru's name was always there in the list of big time players who made a mark on my early years. I was a tenor player, but my teacher in high school was a bass player, and I developed a "bass" approach to tenor.GabrielRice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:05 am
...Of course, all the commercial recordings and live recordings of the Philip Jones Brass Ensemble. ...
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When I lived in Cleveland (around 1990-91), I would occasionally drive down to Oberlin and had a lesson with Ray Premru. He was a great man. His sound was stunning. I don’t think he used particularly large equipment (I believe his mouthpiece was is the Bach 2G range), but his tone was huge, yet very clear!
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Thanks, Gabe. I’ll remember that for next year.
I love Ray’s sound (as much as I can hear it on recordings). Compact, full, easy. Beautiful.
I also love Phil’s Teele’s sound. I was fortunate to hear him live with the Toshiko Akiyoshi Lew Tabackin Big Band. He could fill a room, and then be as quiet as a mouse.
I love Ray’s sound (as much as I can hear it on recordings). Compact, full, easy. Beautiful.
I also love Phil’s Teele’s sound. I was fortunate to hear him live with the Toshiko Akiyoshi Lew Tabackin Big Band. He could fill a room, and then be as quiet as a mouse.
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I met Ray Premru while on tour with the NSO in Oberlin, OH and found myself at his home with our trombone section as his guests. I remember him as a very amiable gentleman and enjoyed the visit very much. I have an unusual way of remembering dates by whatever automobiles are present at the time of an event and during our visit I was surprised to find a Ford Taurus SHO [Super High Output] sedan setting in his driveway. He seemed to be a bit surprised at what an iconic vehicle he'd chosen and thought it was a bit "twitchy" for his tastes. The SHO Yamaha V6 had a 0-60 time of about 6 seconds and a top speed of about 140 MPH !! It had a manual transmission, which hampered its sales according to the industry gurus. Even Conan O'Brien of the "Tonight Show" had one although he downplayed it as just a Ford Taurus. So --- an amiable gentleman driving a "Pocket Rocket" ! I think he was quite an interesting man as well as a great trombonist !
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Happy Bass Trombone Day everyone!
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Didn't Sam Burtis drive one of those Ford/Yamaha SHOs for a while?2bobone wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:06 pm I met Ray Premru while on tour with the NSO in Oberlin, OH and found myself at his home with our trombone section as his guests. I remember him as a very amiable gentleman and enjoyed the visit very much. I have an unusual way of remembering dates by whatever automobiles are present at the time of an event and during our visit I was surprised to find a Ford Taurus SHO [Super High Output] sedan setting in his driveway. He seemed to be a bit surprised at what an iconic vehicle he'd chosen and thought it was a bit "twitchy" for his tastes. The SHO Yamaha V6 had a 0-60 time of about 6 seconds and a top speed of about 140 MPH !! It had a manual transmission, which hampered its sales according to the industry gurus. Even Conan O'Brien of the "Tonight Show" had one although he downplayed it as just a Ford Taurus. So --- an amiable gentleman driving a "Pocket Rocket" ! I think he was quite an interesting man as well as a great trombonist !
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Yup. Fun car.
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I was impressed to find out that he had his SHO when I was in school there. We talked about it a few times because I'm very much a "car guy" and he mentioned that it reminded him of the Ford Sierra he had in England. It's been a long time now and I don't remember if he told me, but I wonder if that was a Cosworth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Sierra_RS_Cosworth)....2bobone wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:06 pm I met Ray Premru while on tour with the NSO in Oberlin, OH and found myself at his home with our trombone section as his guests. I remember him as a very amiable gentleman and enjoyed the visit very much. I have an unusual way of remembering dates by whatever automobiles are present at the time of an event and during our visit I was surprised to find a Ford Taurus SHO [Super High Output] sedan setting in his driveway. He seemed to be a bit surprised at what an iconic vehicle he'd chosen and thought it was a bit "twitchy" for his tastes. The SHO Yamaha V6 had a 0-60 time of about 6 seconds and a top speed of about 140 MPH !! It had a manual transmission, which hampered its sales according to the industry gurus. Even Conan O'Brien of the "Tonight Show" had one although he downplayed it as just a Ford Taurus. So --- an amiable gentleman driving a "Pocket Rocket" ! I think he was quite an interesting man as well as a great trombonist !
But in any case, I of course agree with Gabe. I'm on board with anything that honors Ray.
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I remember those Taurus SHOs. I always wanted, still do to be honest, the Chevrolet equivalent from the same time period - Impala SS. My younger brother had a 2-door Cavalier SS for a while. Far too much engine for a car that size, it was awesome.
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I agree about Bass Trombone Day, I'm a survivor of the rice paddies and have no qualms about celebrating a day that would help heal. I've chatted with D-Day survivors at our local AmVet's hall before some passed and they would rather celebrate the men more than the day.
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I had a SHO too, scared the s**t out me one time. Lots of power but didn't handle too well . The gentleman who bought it from me pretty much wrapped it around a light post.
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