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I have 6. A Bach 12, Shires medium tenor, Shires large tenor, Shires bass, and a couple of Corp. Bachs (a 42 and a 50). Seems like a reasonable enough number. Play them all, but some more than others.
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A Shires Tru Bore Tenor Trombone
Yahama Tenor XT trombone.
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Yamaha Xeno tenor
Yamaha Xeno bass
Bach 36B tenor
Shires jazz tenor
JP Rath alto
Yamaha 642 euph
Miraphone rotary/oval tenor horn
Jin Bao rotary/oval tenor horn
King double-bell euphonium
Miraphone 186 tuba
Olds O-99 tuba
Conn alto horn (convertable between F and Eb)
(Cringe)...and a pBone
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Copied & pasted from my profile:

1964 Earl Williams 6
1969 Brasslab "Connvertible" Elkhart 88H
1968 Connstellation 48H
1952 Holton 65
1948 King 2B
1935 King Liberty
1910 Conn HP/LP
Blue Pbone
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Post by ttf_JimArcher »

12, all Olds except for my Bach Bass. Plus an Olds Studio Baritone. Plus 2 Ambassadors that went to a local music store for handout to students and a Pan Am trumpet that went the same route.
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Post by ttf_JoePaski »

5:
Bach 39 Alto
King 3B
Bach 42BO w/gold brass bell
King Duo Gravis
Yamaha student horn that collects dust in my mom's basement
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Post by ttf_bassboneman »

1963 Holton 169
1970's Holton 159
Shires Single Valve Bass w Hagmann
Edwards B454e
Straight Edwards Bass w unmarked Holton 9" bell

...4 really - considering the edwards is convertible...
always looking for the next horn...
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Post by ttf_Catastrophone »

Rath R9
King Duo Gravis
'70s Conn 88H
1968 Conn 48H
1927 Conn 4H
Imperial euph
Imperial Eb tuba

I still want a 62H, a small single bass (70H or similar), a .525 Bb/F, and a bigger tuba!  Need to save up though....
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Post by ttf_Gabe Langfur »

4 trombones and a tuba:
Shires dual Trubore bass
Conn 70H
Bach 50B
Shires Chicago Model tenor (sort of)
Conn 3J CC tuba

Plus I have an extra bell and tuning slide for my bass.
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Post by ttf_anonymous »

5
1954 Holton Mod. 63
early 40's King 2B Liberty
late 80's Blessing Artist Model B148X
1949 Conn 70H
2000's Frankenbass   Weril GG291 Bell section w/ Conn 62 slide
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Post by ttf_Doghouse Dan »

very old 2H
very old 4H (I'll look up the dates on these some day...)
Shires .500
1949 Liberty
3B
36
1971 42/b/Shires TW47 slide
1954 70H
Yamaha 3/4C tuba
Blue P-bone
Vega bell with Bach 34 slide
Olds Ambassador that was given to me that I plan to donate to a worthy cause when I locate it!
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About 10 or more years ago, I donated my old Olds Ambassador to a Cuban music school. A friend took it with her when she went to Cuba on vacation, located a music school in Havana, and gave it to them.
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Dependent Edwards Bass
Mid 60's Bach 50
Bach 42 w/Ed Thayer valve
Bach 36
Bach 16M
Rudolf Meinl 3/4 CC tuba
Yamaha YBL-103 BBb tuba
Yamaha Sousaphone
Rudolf Meinl Bass trumpet

Nine horns. Yikes. At least most of them pay their way.

Andrew
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Post by ttf_Mark LaFratta »

Most of my trombones show up in signature below.  I have 7 conns. Conn alto, several Ellie's: 8h, 88h, 12h and 79h, plus Eastlake 88hCL and 62h. Markus Leuchter alto sackbut, B&m Bb tenor sackbut. I have other instruments I do not list in profile.  An olds F alto trombone, Conn baritone from 1920s, con 1945 double bell euphonium,  Besson Crampon 967 euphonium, 1960s Boosey Imperial euphonium, circa 1910 Besson new standard euphonium and new standard baritone, miraphone rotary Euphonium, Tuba MM Eb compensating tuba, cerveny 4valve Eb helicon,
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Post by ttf_wgwbassbone »

1. Holton TR 180
2. Bach 50BG2
3. Another TR 180
4. Elkhart 88H
5. Bach 16M
6. Yamaha 4 valve tuba


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From my forum profile:

Small bore trombones
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Olds Standard tenor and B&H Imperial G/D bass trombones

Olds Standard B flat tenor trombone
I use this instrument for French third trombone parts when the section scales down to small bore instruments. It has a dual bore (0.485"/0.500") slide with in-slide tuning and a 7" bell. I usually use a Vincent Bach (New York) 6 mouthpiece or a Denis Wick 4BS mouthpiece with this trombone. I have two: one made in 1917 (silver plated with gold wash in the bell) and one made in 1921 (unlacquered).

Boosey & Hawkes "Imperial" G/D bass trombone
This is one of the last G/D bass trombones ever made, dating from 1978. This is an example of the large bore  (0.5265") orchestral model. The instrument still has its original G/D bass trombone mouthpiece, handle and case.

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Besson "Prototype" G bass trombone

Besson "Prototype" G bass trombone
This trombone belonged formerly to Royal Marines Band No. 7. It still possesses its original handle, mouthpiece and case and has been dated to approximately 1948. The bore of this instrument is 0.487".

Established by Gustave August Besson in Paris 1837, Besson & Co. established a London branch by 1850 and was fined for patent problems with Adolphe Sax during the mid 1800s. After the death of the founder in 1874, his widow took over the business (in 1874), followed later by his daughter, Marthe. The company was taken over by Boosey & Hawkes in 1948.

Large bore trombones
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Elkhart Conn 88H, 70H, and 62H trombones

Conn 88H B flat/F trombone
I use this instrument for French third trombone parts and sometimes as a light bass trombone when playing with an alto trombone in Classical and early Romantic works. I usually use a Shires Vintage 3G mouthpiece with this trombone.

Conn 70H B flat/F bass trombone
This model dates from 1942 and features tuning in the slide and was manufactured from 1937 to 1955. The Conn factory stopped the manufacture of musical instruments in August 1942, so this is quite a find. It has a 9½" bell and a rather narrower taper, which lend it a somewhat lighter feel compared with modern bass trombones. It is a joy to play and is very suitable for most orchestral bass trombone playing. Played with either the original Connstellation Remington mouthpiece or a Shires Vintage 2G or 3G mouthpiece.

Conn 62H B flat/F/D bass trombone
This famous model dates from 1970, features tuning in the slide and was manufactured from 1968 to 1972. It has a 9½" bell, a somewhat lighter feel compared with modern bass trombones, and produces a classic bass trombone sound. The valves were reconfigured by Larry Minick to produce an open wrap F tube, second valve D slide, and independent levers. It is a joy to play and is my main instrument. Played with a Shires Vintage 2G mouthpiece.

Thein F/D/B flat/A flat contrabass trombone
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Thein F/D/B flat/A flat contrabass trombone

This contrabass trombone has a slide bore of 0.567" and a bell diameter of 10.63". The mouthpiece is a Thein contrabass trombone model designed by Joachim Mittelacher - the Thein MCH (Mittelacher Contrabass Heavy) model.

German trombones
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German E flat alto, B flat tenor, and B flat/F tenorbass trombones

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German E flat alto, B flat tenor, and F bass trombones

Arno Windisch (Dresden) alto trombone in E flat
This instrument has a 7" bell and dates from approximately 1954. It is typical of older German  trombones in having a friction joint instead of a ferrule to attach the bell to the slide, no slide lock, an unsoldered slide stay and a bell garland.

Born on 27 February 1921 in Klingenthal, Saxony, in 1954 Arno Windisch took over the workshop of Friedrich Alwin Heckel (founded 1836), the former instrument workshop to the royal court of Saxony. On 1 January 1992 the workshop was shut down.

Robert Piering (Adorf) B flat trombone, Robert Piering (Adorf) B flat/F trombone
The straight B flattenor trombone was probably made by Robert Piering of Adorf in Saxony in the late 1920s/early 1930s. It has a slide bore of 0.500", a 9" bell, and traditional German snake ornamentation. There is no tuning slide.

This tenorbass trombone in B flat/F was made by Robert Piering of Adorf in Saxony in the late 1920s/early 1930s and I use it as a small bass trombone when playing Viennese Classical works by Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Schubert, etc. It has a slide bore of 0.525", a 9" bell, and traditional German snake ornamentation. It is fitted with a tuning slide and has a thong-operated thumb valve with drum spring for the F attachment. The whole instrument is fashioned out of gold brass and has a very warm sound, typical of instruments of this kind from Saxony.

The Robert Piering workshop was established in 1882 and lasted until the mid-20th century, producing every size of trombone from alto to contrabass. Instruments from the Piering workshop, like those from that of Kruspe in Erfurt, were and are highly sought after and represent the zenith of traditional German trombone manufacture.

Sächsische Musikinstrumenten Fabriken VEB (Klingenthal) bass trombone in F
This is a typical example of the old German military band bass trombone with a coil in the bell section and has a bore size of approximately 0.512", 10" bell, as well as the original case and mouthpiece. It has no tuning slide, no slide lock, no water key, an unsoldered slide stay and a friction joint to attach the bell to the slide.

This trombone is, unusually, a post-war instrument from the German Democratic Republic. The Sächsische Musikinstrumenten Fabriken VEB were founded in 1946 and closed down in 1972. It is a real rarity owing to the fact that most German manufacturers ceased making F bass trombones before World War II.

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Schuster & Co. (Markneukirchen) tenor trombone in B flat

Schuster & Co. (Markneukirchen) tenor trombone in B flat
Schuster & Co. operated from 1881 to 1943, founded by Arnold W. Ludwig through the purchase of Paulus & Schuster and was a manufacturer of musical instruments by royal appointment to the court of Saxony.

This tenor trombone has bore size of 0.547", a 10" bell and possesses an interesting in-slide tuning mechanism as well as very fine Schlangenverzierungen (snake ornamentations), which protect the bell and slide bows. It also has the traditional German Cölner model mouthpiece. Given the fact that there is a crown in the design of the bell engraving and mention of Schuster being a supplier to the royal court, this trombone was very likely manufactured prior to 1918, when the German monarchy was replaced by the Weimar Republic.
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Post by ttf_MoominDave »

Trombones:

Alto - 2003 B&S 3049
Small tenor - 1935 Conn 24H
Medium-small tenor - 1930 Holton Paul Whiteman - slide has been abused, poor thing
Medium-large tenor - 1958 Besson 10-10 - ditto
Large tenor - 1987 Conn 88H
P-bone
Bass 1 - 1962 Holton 169 with modified inline valves from original parts (1969 by Burt Herrick); recently added new slide to long D for second valve. Valve tubing options include Bb/F/Ab/E, Bb/F/G/Eb, Bb/F/Gb/D, Bb/F/Eb/C, Bb/F/D/B, Bb/F/Db/Bb.
Bass 2 - Rath R9 (various parts from various years) - dual inline Hagmanns Bb/F/Gb/D, single bore, pretty standard set-up
Bass 3 - Conn 73H (slide is from a 1967 72H), Bb/F/D dependent
G/D Bass (.5265" bore) - 1969 Boosey & Hawkes Imperial
G/D Bass (.484" bore) - c.1923 Hawkes & Son Artist's Perfected
G Bass (.484" bore) - 1930 Hawkes & Son Artist's Perfected
F valve bass - unstamped, 4 valves, 4th valve two tones with pull to perfect 4th. Czech maybe?
BBb/FF Contrabass - Miraphone

All get used for the listed purpose, barring the P-bone (some much more than others). My go-to instrument is the Holton 169 - what a lovely lovely piece of kit...

Other brass:
Bass trumpet - Schmidtco - ostensibly German, but maybe Chinese? Plays decently enough now I've had a long main slide trigger added.
French horn - Conn 6D (1960s) - alas, I cannot play this well enough to take it out of the house... Very different way of playing to trombone.
Euphonium - 1946 B&H Imperial - bit leaky, I use the borrowed Sovereign listed below instead
Cornet - P. DeLacy - 19th century antique, not in playing order
Trumpet - cannot remember the make - 1930s small bore dance band instrument. I'm no trumpeter.

In addition, I have the following long term borrows hanging around (for a decade or so; they belong to the brass band that I help run and play bass trombone for):
Bass 4 - Holton TR181
Euphonium - Besson Sovereign (1990s)

So what's that? 14 trombones owned, 15 held. 19 brass instruments owned, 21 held. Of these, 7 or 8 cover the vast majority of my playing.



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Lunch break post:

Bach, 50AF3 lots of bells, 45 (in slow) progress, 42 with lots of options (I built it convertible), 36, 16M, 12 in silver plate, NY6, 39G, Weril TIS alto, Besson New Standard Euphonium (in pieces after a valve rebuild), beat to an inch of life 186 BBb tuba.  Olds standard parts horn in silver plate.  Finke bass Sackbutt. Lots of recorders, whistles a couple of beans (snake charmer instruments), of and a great bass rackett.

Benn

ps a broken down harpsichord in my garage too!
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1. Getzen 1062FDR Bass - my main horn
2. Conn 88HO with rose brass bell and slide
3. Courtois AC602 "Jazz"
4. King Cleavland 605 - on loan to a friend
5. Blue pBone Eb mini - for my 5 year old daughter to fart around with
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5 - see below
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Post by ttf_JohnL »

It's not so much a collection as a private museum...

Olds trombones
Standard (TIS) Large Bore (c.1917)
Standard (TIS) Bass (c.1920)
Standard (TIS) S/SM Bore (early 1920's)
Standard (TIS) Symphony (late 1920's)
Self-Balancing LM-7 (early 1930's)
Military LM-7 (early 1930's)
Self-Balancing LLM-7½ with f-attachment (mid-1930's)
Self-Balancing LM-8 (mid-1930's)
Radio City LM-7 (mid-1930's)
Radio R-7 (mid-1930's)
Super 7½ (mid-1930's, pre-tone ring)
Standard (TIS) LM-7½ with hammered finish
Super LM-7½ (late 1930's - wide tone ring)
Super LM-7½ (late 1930's - narrow tone ring) engraved "R. B. Olds"
Super L-9 w/f-attachment (early 1940's)
Standard (post-WWII non-TIS version - mid-1940's)
Super LLM-8
Standard Bb-F-E Bass Trombone (c. 1947)
Bb-F-E Bass Trombone (c. 1949)
Single Bass (GR prototype? .553"/.565" with 10" bell)
Single Bass (GR Prototype? .553"/.565" with 9" bell)
R-20 Recording
A-20/R-20 hybrid
Super S-20
Opera O-20
Alto F-15
Super S-24G
Custom P-15
Custom P-24G (four of 'em)
Custom P-16

Other trombones
Williams and Wallace Medium Bore
Williams TIS "pre-9"(late 30's?)
Conn 4H
King 1485 Symphony Silvertone (c.1947)
Strickler

Not-quite-trombones
Olds O-20 valve trombone
Olds O-21 marching trombone
Conn 24I Connstellation Euphonium
Bohm & Meinl bass trumpet

I probably missed a few...
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Post by ttf_hyperbolica »

11 bones - 3 for sale

88h 1968
8ht GenII w/525 slide
79h 1966 silver plate
79h 1968 rose brass bell (bell pilfered from '51 78h)
78h 1951 yellow brass bell (bell from 79h above- for sale)
6h 1958
100h 1991 silver plate
Schiller (Jin Bao) alto, rose bell, Slokar leadpipe
Benge 175f (for sale)
Olds Super (war baby- for sale)
Bach 50b3 1982

Of these, I mostly play the 88h with the 525 slide, the 79hs, and the 6h with the 100h slide, in that order.

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Quote from: JohnL on Dec 26, 2014, 01:31PMIt's not so much a collection as a private museum...

It really is. I wish I could visit it...

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Post by ttf_marccromme »

8

Jinbao alto JBSL-702L
Yamaha 356 F/Bb
Yamaha 682G F/Bb
Kurt Mönnich german trombone Bb/F
Wessex/Jinbao Bass Bb/F/Gb/D JBSL-831S
ED. KRUSPE german Bass Bb/F/Gb/D
WERIL Bass Bb/F/Gb/D (for sale)
Hirsbrunner 3V Bb Euphonium compensated

In addition, my family has:
B&H alto horn (wife)
Yamaha 448 Bb/F trombone (son)
Hoyer medium bore frensh horn (daughter)


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Quote from: MoominDave on Dec 26, 2014, 01:03PMBass 1 - 1962 Holton 169 with modified inline valves from original parts (1969 by Burt Herrick); recently added new slide to long D for second valve. Valve tubing options include Bb/F/Ab/E, Bb/F/G/Eb, Bb/F/Gb/D, Bb/F/Eb/C, Bb/F/D/B, Bb/F/Db/Bb.

I am just curious: which one of all these tunings do you prefer? Which other s do you use regulary?
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Quote from: oslide on Dec 26, 2014, 02:10PMIt really is. I wish I could visit it...That's why the best parts are on the web...
www.itsabear.com
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Bach Lt12G
2 BachLt16M`s (one w/ Gold brass bell & one with yellow brass)
Lt 36
TR 156 Holton
KIng 2B slide/valve combo
Blue p-bone
Weril TIS alto trombone
Pre-WWI King Euphonium
Seman Bss TRumpet
American Statndard (looks like a french horn) Mellophone (uses  Parduba Double cup trombone mouthpiece)
1928 Conn Eb Tuba
Late 50`s Conn 12J
Gemenhardt piccolo
rmstrong 103 Flute
Artley Alto Flute
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1. 2005ish Conn 88HO
2. 1972 King 3B
3. 1938 King Liberty
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Quote from: JohnL on Dec 26, 2014, 02:38PMThat's why the best parts are on the web...
www.itsabear.com

Great site, man.  Never tried an Olds - they rarely show up 'round these parts, aside from the occasional Ambassador.  Next trip to the US, I'd like to get my hands on a few.  A P-16 sounds right up my street.

I'm a rank amateur compared to some of the collectors here -- I have but 4 'bones:

1938 King Liberty (turns out it is a dual bore, but no "2B" markings)
1990s King Jiggs 2B
2011 (or thereabouts) King 2103/3B
1970s-ish Yamaha 252 (like a 354, Japan-only model)

I likes 'em small and valveless ...
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10 bones at the moment plus several student horns for teaching with and loaning out. Looking to add a euphonium, horn and tuba at some point.

NY Bach 6/8 +16M slide
Corp Bach 36 with Gb valve
Edwards T-350 547/562
Burbank Williams 9
Conn 72 single-valve bass
Conn 62HI bass
2 Yamaha YSL-354s
Reynolds student bone
Yellow P-Bone

Bach Mercedes marching baritone
Conn Connstelation trumpet
King Cleveland trumpet
Bundy II Alto sax
Bundy II Tenor sax
Selmer Tenor sax
Selmer flute
Gmeinhardt flute
Yamaha clarinet
Selmer clarinet


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I tend to be a series collector...
Conn 2H(old and not very playable), 4H(1954..good player), 6H(1974 vintage), and 8h(from 1961).
Conn Constellation series - 28H, 38H(one of my most happiest finds!), and a 1961 48H with a lightweight slide.
Kings..605 - painted to U of D colors, several 2B's(these somehow never have worked for me?), "93 3BSS 100th Anniv. model, 1963 Silversonic 3B-F and A 1963 Brass Symph 9" dual bore.  An amazing 1953 Olds Studio purchased from Euphanasia!! Image, and an amazingly modified King 606 that would blow your mind!!  All this among others Reynolds and Roth, etc...Oh well, it goes on and on!!!!
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13...

Shires Bass - Gold Brass Bell, standard slide with Greenhoe Brace, single standard rotor, yellow C tuning slide, #3L leadpipe, Elliott W111G/M/9 mouthpiece (classical setup)

Shires Bass - Rose Brass T7 Bell, lightweight nickel slide, double stacked rotors, nickel B tuning slide, #N1L Leadpipe, Elliott 111G/K/8 mouthpiece (commercial setup)

Rath R4F .547 tenor, nickel bell, red brass tuning slide and hand slide, Hagmann valve, #5B leadpipe - Elliott 100G/G/8 mouthpiece

Rath R3 .525 Tenor, nickel bell, gold brass tuning slide, yellow brass hand slide, #31 leadpipe, Elliott 100G/D/4 mouthpiece

B.A.C. Custom Classic .500 Tenor, 7.5" gold brass lightweight bell, nickel tuning slide, nickel lightweight slide, nickel leadpipe - Elliott 95G/B/2 Mouthpiece

Rath JP236 Alto - Elliott 95G/B/2 Mouthpiece

Jupiter Soprano - Schilke 24 Mouthpiece

Jupiter XO flugelhorn

Getzen Custom Cornet

Mirafone Loimayr 4 valve oval Tenor Horn - Elliott 100G/H/4 mouthpiece

Miraphone 282 Tuba - Elliott 126G/P/PCE mouthpiece

pBones - Green/Red - great for Christmas! And white.
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Just one!

Edwards T396-A


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Post by ttf_Davey »

7, 6 of which are Trombones

1947 Conn 44H
1960 Olds Special
1973 Holton 158
1998 Edwards 454
2000's Yamaha 613H
2000's Conn 88HT-O

and a 1960 Mirafone 186CC

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1. Earl Williams Model 6-Burbank build
2. Conn 62H-Elkhart with Minick Open Wrap and D-Slide, Minick & Jerry Callet pipes, E. Swanson triggers
3. Yamaha 611-II with split trigger by Rob Phillips--assembly  fine-tuning & slide work by E. Edwards
4. Bach 36, straight tenor, with brass bell & slide
5. Bach 42B conventional wrap with brass slide
6. Bach 50B single valve, conventional wrap & brass slide
7. Bach 50B3, with Greenhoe Conversion by Terry Phillips, Sandhagen rebuilt brass slide, Shires B2 pipe
8. Yamaha YBB-321 BBb tuba- old style model, straight 3rd valve slide and metal valve guides. Looking to replace. Top action not my favorite and horn is really big for my size. Have to use stand for horn!

Too old to buy any more horns! Image
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Two, but I wouldn't mind picking up a large bore again for the occasional times I'd need it.
Unfortunately not in the budget.
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Post by ttf_greenbean »

BRASS:

Yamaha 882GO
Late 70's Conn 88H
Yamaha 681 straight large-bore
Yamaha 647 straight large-bore (for sale)
King 3B, ropey
1966 Conn 6H
Romeo Adaci Bb/F bass
Jupiter 3-valve euphonium
Reynolds Contempora and Onxy models and another 6H awaiting repairs

WOODWIND:

Yamaha pro flute / Altus headjoint
6 other assorted flutes
diMedici alto flute
Bundy piccolo!
Selmer Paris full-Boehm clarinet (for sale)
Evette Master Model clarinet (wow!)
Selmer Paris bass clarinet (for sale)
A few recorders and a fife!

Not as bad as I thought!!

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Getzen 4147IB
Shires 2RVE,TW47,dualbore Rotor
Frank Holton 168
Frank Holton TR150
Yamaha YSL 645
Yamaha YSL 671


Hans Krinner bass trumpet
Wessex Dolce Cantabile euphonium
Yamaha 321S
Amati baritone
Anton Dehmals valve trombone
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You guys ever wonder if posting your collections is an invitation for nefarious people to scour this list looking for homes to "visit?"

Or am I paranoid?

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Quote from: marccromme on Dec 26, 2014, 02:29PMI am just curious: which one of all these tunings do you prefer? Which other s do you use regulary?

I've played Bb/F/Gb/D (or Bb/F/D when I've played a dependent) since the start of my bass trombone playing years. Second valves in Ab/E or G/Eb I have played with from time to time out of curiosity, but never seriously.

My 169 (still a bit of a rush to write that - bought it in August) came with tubing suitable to create set-ups that included second valve Ab/E, G/Eb, and F/D. Naturally, I played it in the configuration I was used to - Bb/F/Gb/D. But using both valves at once creates something of a resonance dead spot on the instrument - low C and B were not of a comparable quality to the notes around them. One can always work to improve weak spots in one's playing, but I've been playing bass trombone over 20 years now and know my weak spots pretty well, and also how likely I am to be able to strengthen them by particular means. The need to muscle through the change of resonance with double valve playing is something that's been destabilising my embouchure in that register for years. Instead using G/Eb or even Ab/E improved matters a fraction - but only a fraction, and at the expense of pushing the notes further out on the slide and of giving me a new set of positions to learn.

So instead I had a repairman (Bryce Ferguson at Brass & Woodwind in Edinburgh) knock me up a slide that takes the second valve to D on its own, which is what I am accustoming myself to right now. It hasn't taken much accustomisation mentally - just remembering to lift the thumb when the previously additional finger goes down, and vice versa - of course, the slide positions are the same. It makes a physically light instrument a physically heavy instrument - but no more so than my Rath R9. And on the upside, low C and B are just notes now, not special cases requiring gurning. I've been playing like this for a month now, and it certainly does the job planned. The only question deals with whether the relatively few low Cs and Bs that find their way onto my stand are worth carrying the extra weight around for. I suspect it will depend in the future on what particular pieces I am rehearsing at the time.

As an addendum, both valves together now give a rather flat B. This is largely academic, as the double valve response with a couple of new extra curves is worse than it was before, and so I do not tend to employ both together. One can now descend to 3rd leger line G on the 2nd partial, but it's very stuffy. The pedal GG an 8ve lower I have yet to hit while using a sensible mouthpiece! This low range playing deficiency is not keeping me up at night...

So in answer to the question, Bb/F/D/B full time. But although I am liking it, I am still evaluating it.
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Two, and as far as the current Memsaab is concerned that is one too many! Image
ttf_Glenn
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One. King 4B from early 1960s.   
ttf_bigbassbone1
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Post by ttf_bigbassbone1 »

More than i realised!!!

My main horn, Edwards bass
My second, conn 70h
A Bach 42T (before i swapped to bass)
Bach TB200B from high school
Green pbone.

Wow... i guess i own 5. Always thought of it as 2...  Image
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Post by ttf_WaltTrombone »

YSL 882GO
YSL 350C
YSL 682G
YSL 897Z
YSL 871 Alto, one of the original ones, not the current model 871
YBL 611-II Bass, lots of customizing
There's a couple of Conn/Bundy/Frankenbone student horns kicking around, too.

Holton Collegiate bell-front alto horn in Eb

YEP 641 Euphonium
Barth Kaiserbariton (Rotary valve euph, straight bell, probably made in between the World Wars)

Old beater Conn Eb tuba
YBB 103 teeny BBb Tuba
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 Image

I could tell...

but...

...then I'll have to kill you  Image

/Tom
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Post by ttf_fsgazda »

7.  These 6 copied from my profile:

BASS:  Shires in-line F/Gb/D Thayer valves, 1YT7 Bell, "B" Tuning Slide, Brassark Mount Vernon Bach Leadpipe.
MOUTHPIECE:  Shires New Classic 1 1/4 MD.

TENOR:  Shires 7YM bell, Thayer valve, TB47 Slide, "2" Leadpipe.
MOUTHPIECE:  Shires Vintage 4G.

ALTO: JP Rath 236.
Mouthpiece: JP Rath 12C.

EUPHONIUM: Meinl Weston 451S 4-valve compensating.
MOUTHPIECE: Warburton 4GD.

TUBA: M & M "Fletcher" model Eb.
MOUTHPIECE: Schilke Helleberg.

BASS TRUMPET: 1956 Holton Model 58
MOUTHPIECE: Bach 11C

Plus a slightly beat up Benge 165F that I got a great deal on a few years ago that I lend to students switching to a .547 horn, until they can get their own.

Now , I also have a list of every horn that I've owned over the last 18 years or so, how much I bought it for and what I sold it for.  I have been through 2 altos, 6 tenors (plus 2 additional bells and 1 additional slide), 2 euphoniums, and 4 tubas to wind up where I am today.  Only 1 bass, however.  Since I purchased one of the earlier Shires basses in 1996 I haven't bought another bass.
ttf_rodglu
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Post by ttf_rodglu »

Nine (9):

Conn 4H* - Circa 1925, gold plated, highly engraved bell
Conn 6H _ Elkhart, circa 1966
Martin TR-4501 - Urbie Green model, 7.75" bell version
Bach LT12 - Circa 1972
Bach 16M - Custom slide (3B crook without bumper, trumpet spit valve, removable lead pipe - Kanstul H8/Shires 2)
Conn 88H - Elkhart, circa 1967
Bach 42BO - Removable lead pipe (Shires 2/Brasslab MV Hartz)
Yamaha 613H - Bass trombone
Yamaha 822G - Bass trombone
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Post by ttf_greenbean »

Quote from: SilverBone on Dec 27, 2014, 12:28AM...
Or am I paranoid?


You are paranoid.  Besides, my collection is guarded by a vicious, attack cat. 
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18H Director Coprion Bell 1963
18H Director Nickel Silver
48H Connstellation (my daughter)
Yamaha 350-C (my son)
2 P-Bones
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Post by ttf_Sue »

Seven that I consider to be a permanent part of my collection, from smallest to largest:

1) John Webb sackbut.
2) Olds TIS with the trombone-playing bear engraving, late 20's.
3) King 3B/F with a nickel wide-glide crook.
4) Bach 36B/lightweight nickel slide. (mid-70's)
5) Courtois 360 Challenger straight; dual-bore .525/.547 wide nickel slide.
6) Bach 42B gold-brass bell/lightweight nickel slide. (early 90's)
7) Courtois dual-independent bass Bb/F/Gb/D with a gold brass Shires bell and
   lightweight brass slide.

There are more. Many more. Hubby's, older son's, younger son's, some that will be for sale.

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