Yamaha 421G

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PaulT
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Yamaha 421G

Post by PaulT » Fri May 10, 2019 10:41 am

I have been asked if I could play bass trombone to fill the bottom in a casual quartet. I'm interested, but I have reservations about the cost, weight, and extra valve of a full blown bass trombone. I would be happy with 90% of a bass trombone and if there are a few notes I can't hit, well, that's no different than what I deal with with my tenor trombone. Or my guitar, or my singing, or ... well, you get the picture.

Would a Yamaha 421G be fun and useful instrument in 90% of the not overly demanding bass trombone arrangements an enthusiastic but decidedly amateur player might himself playing?
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by bassclef » Fri May 10, 2019 10:51 am

The answer to your question is: absolutely.
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by Posaunus » Fri May 10, 2019 11:18 am

The Yamaha YBL-421G is a very fine, well-made trombone. It is, in fact, a "full blown bass trombone" - but it has only one valve.

Yes, it not only creates a full bass trombone sound, but it is indeed "fun and useful" for the applications you will probably use it for - and many more. [I'm currently playing Tchaikovsky Symphony #5 on mine.] And it's lighter and cheaper than any two-valve bass trombone. Buy it, play it, and enjoy it! :good:
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by Bach5G » Fri May 10, 2019 11:56 am

I understand that the 421 is a single-valve version of my 620G. I wonder if Yam would sell me a 421 bell section?
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by PaulT » Fri May 10, 2019 1:03 pm

Thanks for the replies.

And after I posted, I recalled the search feature, so I browsed some past threads on the horn.

From this point forward, please only say nice things about this horn as I just purchased one from Quinn the Eskimo on ebay.

Oh, and please, no mention of what's going on in Game of Thrones. I'm trying to wait till the end to I can binge (after re-watching season 6).
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by Schlitz » Fri May 10, 2019 1:30 pm

I own several single valve basses. I have one set up to take a plug in valve. It’s all about playing, practicing, lessons, and studying. Way too much emphasis on equipment. Play what feels good, what you can handle, and have fun. Congratulations on your purchase.
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by PaulT » Fri May 10, 2019 1:55 pm

Thank you!

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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by Mamaposaune » Sun May 12, 2019 1:32 pm

I've since sold it, but I bought a 421 for my son when he was in high school. It was a very good instrument, IMO, well made and 95% as good in every way to the Elkhart Conn 72H that I have. The only reason I can think of that Yamaha markets it as an intermediate is the single valve. (I wasn't crazy about the case, though, and ending up replacing it with a Bags of Spain).
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by bigbandbone » Fri May 17, 2019 4:57 am

Just joined the 421G club! Can't wait for it to arrive at my doorstep from Quinn!
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by PaulT » Tue May 21, 2019 9:42 am

Welcome to the club!

I have found playing this horn to be an easy adaption yet it offers a distinctly different trombone experience. Never much cared for low notes before, now they are a blast.

I hope the link below is forum kosher. I think it is a really good deal for anyone interested in this horn and I intend it as a service, not a shill. The 421G I got from Quinn struck me as a brand new factory fresh horn for a used horn price (as did the other horn I got from Quinn earlier this year... when he says mint, it is mint).


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-Model-Y ... 2749.l2649
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by walldaja » Tue May 21, 2019 10:09 am

I've never been so pleased with the purchase of an instrument as I was with my 421G from Quinn. I love the horn for solos with the organist at our church--the sound just resonates. Today I played through several of the pieces for our Fourth of July concert (1st book) and I used the 421G--I'm tempted to take it just for the 1812 Overture. The notes speak easily and with great tone. Another piece I played was the trombone solo of "Bear Necessities"--sort of sounds like I'd imagine that big bear singing. It is the definition of sonorous!
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Re: Yamaha 421G

Post by BGuttman » Tue May 21, 2019 11:47 am

walldaja wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 10:09 am
I've never been so pleased with the purchase of an instrument as I was with my 421G from Quinn. I love the horn for solos with the organist at our church--the sound just resonates. Today I played through several of the pieces for our Fourth of July concert (1st book) and I used the 421G--I'm tempted to take it just for the 1812 Overture. The notes speak easily and with great tone. Another piece I played was the trombone solo of "Bear Necessities"--sort of sounds like I'd imagine that big bear singing. It is the definition of sonorous!
And I thought the King 4B was Sonorous :tongue:
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