B&S MS 14

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B&S MS 14

Post by norbie2018 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:00 pm

Has anyone had experience with this instrument? I know it comes in several configurations.

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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by norbie2018 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:28 pm

Anybody?
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by Bach5G » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:08 pm

B&S Meistersinger series?
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by norbie2018 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:32 pm

Yes, the MS14 is their large bore tenor.
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Post by Neo Bri » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:13 pm

I'd like to hear more, too, especially if people have played them. I feel like these days almost everyone makes a great trombone.
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Post by BGuttman » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:25 pm

Not everybody. See the comments under my "Mirage Trombone" topic...
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by Fafner » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:29 am

I know it was (at least initially) designed by Carl Lenthe who played an 88h for a very long time. My passing impression of it is that it's an orchestral 88h with lots of German touches.
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by JesusVicente » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:48 am

Hello Norbie, I've been testing a MS14KN-L for four days, and I've almost decide to keep it. I will tell you next week about my feelings day to day, because I have changed my conception and appreciation of the trombone througout this week. For example, finally I play with the goldbrass leadpipe, despite the first day I didn't like it at all.
It is a very different trombone (I used to play alessi Edwards model), but I like the darker sound, neat attacks and general playability.
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by norbie2018 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:40 am

JesusVicente wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:48 am
Hello Norbie, I've been testing a MS14KN-L for four days, and I've almost decide to keep it. I will tell you next week about my feelings day to day, because I have changed my conception and appreciation of the trombone througout this week. For example, finally I play with the goldbrass leadpipe, despite the first day I didn't like it at all.
It is a very different trombone (I used to play alessi Edwards model), but I like the darker sound, neat attacks and general playability.
Sounds great! What is the KN-L designation?
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by JesusVicente » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:41 am

norbie2018 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:40 am


Sounds great! What is the KN-L designation?
N:Clear lacquer, nickel silver outer slides
K: bell with nickel silver garland
Not sure about de "l" 😉

I bought it here https://m.thomann.de/es/bs_ms14kn_l_bb_f_trombone.htm

The trombone sounds very wide, despite it changes focused sound depending on every leadpipe. I think not as focused as edwards, but wider in other aspects of sound. Low notes and f.attachment are amazing, high notes a bit harder than other brands. On other hand, tuning positions are different too, but not too much.
I.m very glad with it because i like its sound, responde and construction. I don.t tell my students abouit buying it because edwards bach or shires are more standard for orquestral auditions (except in central europe I guess) but as I use it for chamber, classes and with piano and you can play loud too, it fits me very well. I can send you 1 or 2 recordings if you like.
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by norbie2018 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:33 am

JesusVicente wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:41 am
norbie2018 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:40 am


Sounds great! What is the KN-L designation?
N:Clear lacquer, nickel silver outer slides
K: bell with nickel silver garland
Not sure about de "l" 😉

I bought it here https://m.thomann.de/es/bs_ms14kn_l_bb_f_trombone.htm

The trombone sounds very wide, despite it changes focused sound depending on every leadpipe. I think not as focused as edwards, but wider in other aspects of sound. Low notes and f.attachment are amazing, high notes a bit harder than other brands. On other hand, tuning positions are different too, but not too much.
I.m very glad with it because i like its sound, responde and construction. I don.t tell my students abouit buying it because edwards bach or shires are more standard for orquestral auditions (except in central europe I guess) but as I use it for chamber, classes and with piano and you can play loud too, it fits me very well. I can send you 1 or 2 recordings if you like.
If you don't mind sending the recordings I'd appreciate it.
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by JesusVicente » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:07 am

norbie2018 wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:33 am
If you don't mind sending the recordings I'd appreciate it.
Hello, as I promised, I send you a file to show the trombone sound. I cut some excerpts from this morning practice, different styles, only for friendly purposes :wink: please don't judge me hard :bassclef:

The sound we like and the sound we produce is very personal on each one, but maybe it can help you about the B&S trombone. I'd like to tell you too that I like its sound very much, but it is not an easy trombone, it takes pretty air and I find other trombones a bit easier to play. Maybe you can test it and others and tell me, I'd appreciate it very much mate.

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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by Neo Bri » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:02 am

JesusVicente wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:07 am
norbie2018 wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:33 am
If you don't mind sending the recordings I'd appreciate it.
Hello, as I promised, I send you a file to show the trombone sound. I cut some excerpts from this morning practice, different styles, only for friendly purposes :wink: please don't judge me hard :bassclef:

The sound we like and the sound we produce is very personal on each one, but maybe it can help you about the B&S trombone. I'd like to tell you too that I like its sound very much, but it is not an easy trombone, it takes pretty air and I find other trombones a bit easier to play. Maybe you can test it and others and tell me, I'd appreciate it very much mate.

Don't know much about the horn, but you sound absolutely great playing it!
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by norbie2018 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:14 pm

JesusVicente wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:07 am
norbie2018 wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:33 am
If you don't mind sending the recordings I'd appreciate it.
Hello, as I promised, I send you a file to show the trombone sound. I cut some excerpts from this morning practice, different styles, only for friendly purposes :wink: please don't judge me hard :bassclef:

The sound we like and the sound we produce is very personal on each one, but maybe it can help you about the B&S trombone. I'd like to tell you too that I like its sound very much, but it is not an easy trombone, it takes pretty air and I find other trombones a bit easier to play. Maybe you can test it and others and tell me, I'd appreciate it very much mate.

You sound GREAT! I had the local B&S authorized dealer requesting both the stock model and the model you have, but they wouldn't send the one with the nickel kranz unless I bought it first. I'm excited to try some version of it.
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Re: B&S MS 14

Post by JesusVicente » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:19 am

Neo Bri wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:02 am
Don't know much about the horn, but you sound absolutely great playing it!
Oh, thanks, you are very kind
norbie2018 wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:14 pm
You sound GREAT! I had the local B&S authorized dealer requesting both the stock model and the model you have, but they wouldn't send the one with the nickel kranz unless I bought it first. I'm excited to try some version of it.
Yeah, please tell me your feelings about it when you test it. Recently I've tested Adams and Bach Centennial and I liked them very much too, despite I finally got the B&S.

Greetings
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