Marcinkiewicz 105 - Anyone try one?

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Wilhelm
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Marcinkiewicz 105 - Anyone try one?

Post by Wilhelm » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:29 pm

Does anyone have experience with the Marcinkiewicz 105? It states on their website it is a copy of Ed Kleinhammer's Schilke mouthpiece. It is listed as a contrabass mouthpiece, which I am assuming means that it is used in a horn with the leadpipe pulled. I know Kleinhammer was the first bass trombonist to play without a leadpipe, so I am thinking it has the larger shank.

After years (decades?) playing a 1937 Conn 70H, I pulled out my old Bach 50B which has the leadpipe pulled. I am playing on a Schilke custom mouthpiece a friend gave me back in the late 1980's which was based on Charlie Vernon's mouthpiece he was using at the time. I forgot how much I love playing without the leadpipe... don't judge me for it! :-) If you have the air capacity to handle it, the orchestral sound you can get is amazing!

Ed Kleinhammer was my idol as a student and young professional (as I am sure he was to many other bass trombonists of my generation) and I would love to have a go with a copy of his mouthpiece.

Anyone ever try this mouthpiece?

Thanks to all!
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Re: Marcinkiewicz 105 - Anyone try one?

Post by BGuttman » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:39 pm

I used a 105 for a while. It's shank is a little larger than a standard bass shank so it made my horn play flat It's a BIG mouthpiece, if that's what you are looking for. I went from it to a Warburton 3/3B setup and from that to my Doug Elliott.

I still use the 105 from time to time on my 1892 Conn Eb tuba (as opposed to my 107).
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Re: Marcinkiewicz 105 - Anyone try one?

Post by Burgerbob » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:53 pm

I'm borrowing one to try on contra.

On contra, it's a little small for me. I didn't think about trying it on bass. AFAIK, it fits a bass shank just fine (my contra has a bass leadpipe). It does stick out farther than a normal mouthpiece, but has just as much shank in the leadpipe, if that makes sense.

It does seem to stick out the right amount in a leadpipe-less slide, though it wobbles since there is no taper.

Eyeballing it next to my Laskey 95D, it looks pretty similar internally. It has a wider rim and a larger throat. Since it has a larger throat, I don't think I could get along with it on bass... .312 is a good limit, I think.
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Re: Marcinkiewicz 105 - Anyone try one?

Post by ssking2b » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:18 am

I have played the 105 for a number of years in my Holton bass bone. I love it. It has a wider rim because, like Kleinheimer's personal mouthpiece, it was made from a larger blank than was used by the Schilke 60 (production version of same). Currently I am using the Marc 107 - a copy of the mouthpiece R Schilke made for Charlie Vernon. If I support my air properly, neither make me play flat.I don't know if either will fit a horn with no lead pipe. As commercial player I haven't really been interested in that kind of sound, however, no one complains that I sound bright!
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Re: Marcinkiewicz 105 - Anyone try one?

Post by Wilhelm » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:50 am

Thanks so much for your input! Last night, I saw Dillon Music has a used 105 for sale and I will pick it up and give it a try.

Thanks again!
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Re: Marcinkiewicz 105 - Anyone try one?

Post by ssking2b » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:15 am

Please let us know what you think of the piece!
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