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Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 11:19 am
by JTeagarden
I have an Edwards T-350, which, after a bunch of cleaning and not being an idiot, plays nicely.
I was maintaining the axial valve, and noticed a blob of solder where the unengaged brass pipe is attached to the male (bottom) leg that the main tuning slide goes on to.
The blob might be all of 3 mm high and maybe 4 mm wide, and if I were to guess as the the blockage in the pipe, no more 5%.
Any reason to care?
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:53 pm
by ithinknot
Probably not the end of the world, but also straightforward for a tech to remove. Probably best if you don't go messing around in there with triangular scrapers yourself - it's easy to do if you have a feel for the tools, but easier to gouge something pretty badly if you don't.
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:53 pm
by Bonearzt
JTeagarden wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 11:19 am
I have an Edwards T-350, which, after a bunch of cleaning and not being an idiot, plays nicely.
I was maintaining the axial valve, and noticed a blob of solder where the unengaged brass pipe is attached to the male (bottom) leg that the main tuning slide goes on to.
The blob might be all of 3 mm high and maybe 4 mm wide, and if I were to guess as the the blockage in the pipe, no more 5%.
Any reason to care?
I have found that even a tiny blob like this can affect the response.
I find this ALL the time on Bach 42BOs!!
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:44 pm
by brassmedic
Bach always used too much solder (except when they forgot to solder a joint altogether).
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:07 am
by JTeagarden
Ok, seems easy enough for a brass tech to remove without much effort, I have a decent general feel for tools, but am also aware of the tendency to screw things up the first time you do something!
I assume they'll go in with a round metal file through the back, and file it down?
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Now that you can see it, would you remove it?
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:28 am
by pfrancis
If I were to work on it, I’d simply remove the leg. Clean up excess and reinstall.
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:45 am
by JTeagarden
Which requires resoldering? And would you do it in the first place, given what you see?
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:21 pm
by Bonearzt
The cause of that blob is the joints not fitting together BEFORE soldering!
I either run a straight reamer into the pipe, or as mentioned, disassemble & refit & resolder correctly.
And yes, Mr.Teagarden, I would address this.
Eric
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:27 pm
by Jimkinkella
Yes!
This definitely makes a difference, from personal experience!
I would absolutely recommend getting it taken care of.
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:02 pm
by JTeagarden
Bonearzt wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:21 pm
The cause of that blob is the joints not fitting together BEFORE soldering!
I either run a straight reamer into the pipe, or as mentioned, disassemble & refit & resolder correctly.
And yes, Mr.Teagarden, I would address this.
Eric
Eric,
Sent you a pm in this regard.
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:00 am
by JTeagarden
Eric Edwards removed the solder blobs, and generally de-stressed the horn, just got it back today, it slots much better, and is more responsive as well, very much worth the reasonable price he charged!
It's gone from a horn you think should be good to one that actually is.
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 5:09 pm
by Bonearzt
JTeagarden wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:00 am
Eric Edwards removed the solder blobs, and generally de-stressed the horn, just got it back today, it slots much better, and is more responsive as well, very much worth the reasonable price he charged!
It's gone from a horn you think should be good to one that actually is.
Thank you Sir!
Re: Blob of solder in Valve Section: Do I care?
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 8:54 pm
by JTeagarden
Played it a lot more today, it’s spectacular!