More YouTube Trombonists

ttf_josh roseman · Post by **ttf_josh roseman** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:28 pm

Curtis is such a master. I find his recent stuff especially interesting...
This excerpt isn't particularly "polished," and it's not all that pyrotechnical-
but somehow he conveys a lot of depth with minimal effort..
And when you check him out live, he just radiates in a way. this clip has a bit of that.
Viva Curtis!!

ttf_josh roseman · Post by **ttf_josh roseman** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:43 pm

Quote from: "malec"
Josh,
Köszönöm szépen
Respect,
The Trombone Family
Dear Trombone family
Szívesen! Én boldog ön szeretett a őrült video
respect also
Josh the trombone

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:50 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_oBfItRO0

I'm not sure of the bone player... but look at that mouthpiece placement! Thats physically impossible for me, but it seems to work for him.

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:48 pm

Quote from: "josh roseman"Curtis is such a master. I find his recent stuff especially interesting...
This excerpt isn't particularly "polished," and it's not all that pyrotechnical-
but somehow he conveys a lot of depth with minimal effort..
And when you check him out live, he just radiates in a way. this clip has a bit of that.
Viva Curtis!!

A beautiful video of a master at work!

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:56 pm

Quote from: "Ruckus"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_oBfItRO0

I'm not sure of the bone player... but look at that mouthpiece placement! Thats physically impossible for me, but it seems to work for him.

WOW!! That's the most radical trombone mouthpiece place ment that I've seen......but it works for him.

Who is he?

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:02 pm

Just about to ask the same question. i fooled around seeing if i could play anything like that but i cant get higher then this

then again, i spent about 2 minutes doing it...

ttf_Ruckus · Post by **ttf_Ruckus** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:55 pm

I don't think he really can get any high range with that, but he makes money doing what he does, and does a damn fine job doing it in my opinion.

ttf_marty nichols · Post by **ttf_marty nichols** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:07 pm

My guess is that the trombonist with Louis was Big Chief Russell Moore.

As o the Curtis Fuller--- sorry, I don't think it was his best, or even near.

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:51 pm

Interesting Marty. I had no idea who it was but I like the style. When was the Chief in the Allstars?

ttf_marty nichols · Post by **ttf_marty nichols** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:31 pm

Quote from: "Graham Martin"Interesting Marty. I had no idea who it was but I like the style. When was the Chief in the Allstars?

It must have been in the interim before Trummy Young joined Louis. If I recall correctly, Trummy was the last trombonist to play with Louis' band.

Note not related to thread: I am adding new
tunes on myspace. Latest gig in Orange Lake Florida.

ttf_marty nichols · Post by **ttf_marty nichols** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:26 pm

Is Utube great or what? I just spent over an hour there, couldn't stop checking out one after another.

I have enjoyed the two trombone team with Pete Fountain's band on recordings I have. It's nice to see them and watch them. I once had their names but can't remember. Their styles are quite compaible so there are no "trainwrecks."

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:40 am

Quote from: "marty nichols"It must have been in the interim before Trummy Young joined Louis. If I recall correctly, Trummy was the last trombonist to play with Louis' band.

Thanks mate, I am going to try and find some more tracks with him playing.

But Trummy was not the last. After him came Tyree Glenn, a trombonist I have always liked a lot and with a very distinctive vibrato. I have been in touch with his son Tyree Glenn Jr. over the last couple of years and he sent me some private recordings. Jr is a tenor sax player based in Europe and playing mainly R&B. His other son is in a symphony orchestra.

Quote from: "marty nichols"Is Utube great or what? I just spent over an hour there, couldn't stop checking out one after another.

Yeah, but ever since I discovered it I have been exceeding my download allowance @ 13 cents/Mb.

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:20 am

I love the footage of Curtis on "Star Eyes". His depth always amazes.

ttf_josh roseman · Post by **ttf_josh roseman** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:01 am

Quote from: "Ruckus"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_oBfItRO0

I'm not sure of the bone player... but look at that mouthpiece placement! Thats physically impossible for me, but it seems to work for him.
KILLER-!!!!
Thanks for the Louis infusion, that pulled my morning together real quick.
The trombonist has amazing time. And there's something about watching big guys with small horns, just looks like everything is under control..

ttf_Thedrakester · Post by **ttf_Thedrakester** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:52 pm

This is priceless!

http://www.thepetersonproject.com/SupportGroup.htm

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:18 pm

Quote from: "Thedrakester"This is priceless!

http://www.thepetersonproject.com/SupportGroup.htm

That is great!! I'm browsing his music and films now.......listening to "Bad Bones!" Illegal g-flat attachment!

ttf_Dave Tatro · Post by **ttf_Dave Tatro** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:44 am

Quote from: "Ruckus"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_oBfItRO0

I'm not sure of the bone player... but look at that mouthpiece placement! Thats physically impossible for me, but it seems to work for him.

Great clip, loved the bowed bass solo!

I remember an older guy that used to play around the town where I grew up. His slide arm had gotten stiff, maybe arthritic, with age, and he had to keep moving his embouchure farther and farther to the right so that he could reach the lower positions. He ended up looking fairly similar to the guy in the video. It worked but it wasn't pretty!

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:19 am

The time has come-Frank lacy on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24e9dRcOUkY

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:00 am

Quote from: "krizo"The time has come-Frank lacy on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24e9dRcOUkY

That is a helluva video. George Adams goes crazy on sax. Man, he stole the show!

Lacy swings! Great tone, great ideas, great rhythm. He makes the trombone sound like a trombone! No pyrotechnics, just straight bone playing.

Benny Green plays with a lot of soul. Great blues sound.

Thanks for the video.

Who is the older, bearded, cool trombonist with the orange/red sport coat, white pants and Kangol hat?

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:25 am

Certainly looks like Santa Claus - must be Roswell Rudd(??)
erling

ttf_josh roseman · Post by **ttf_josh roseman** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:34 am

Roswell, Roots, Robin- there's a section for you.
That's an understated solo for Roots, but it's all there- huge sound, in-your face, soulful & real..
Thanks for posting, Krizo- George Adams is sorely missed these days...

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:49 am

Hi ! For the mouthpiece placement, that is how i play, with the m'pce on the right of the mouth. But i only play like that in the middle register : for the low and high register, i center the mouthpiece.

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:36 pm

It really is amazing how much jazz trombone is becoming available on YouTube. Their Search function also seems to operate very well. Try it with your favourites.

My favourite has always been the British top trombonist Roy Williams. I have followed his career with interest right from the beginning, particularly the long period when he was with the Alex Welsh Band, and my band used to play their intervals. Here are some clips, the first with Alex and the others with Oscar Klein:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyM5DncofUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf_C0DxLuek&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNYiq6dlubw&mode=related&search=

Gees, I have got to get a bigger download allowance!

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:26 am

Wonderful! Thanks, Grah

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:12 am

How about this one of Jack Teagarden with Bobby Hackett?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-etas3YSs0&mode=related&search=

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:50 am

Incredible! Man, how they burn! And then Cozy Cole on drums as a bonus. GREAT! Thanks again, Grah for pointing us at the great music!!!
erling

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:54 am

That was great!!

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:55 am

I guess there has to be one in every band.

In this case, it is the trombonist George Brunies; here playing with Bobby Hackett and Pee Wee.

Aside from his dancing and the ability to operate the slide with his foot, George Brunies is a great pioneer of trombone style. He was, originally from New Orleans and played with the New Orleans Rhythm Kings (his solo on Tin Roof Blues is one of the most copied solos of all time), Wild Bill Davisons Commodores, Eddie Condon, Muggsy Spaniers Ragtime Band etc. etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y25486Stfw4

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:56 pm

It's decided... I must dance in front of the clarinet's face during my next gig!!

ttf_marty nichols · Post by **ttf_marty nichols** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:20 pm

Quote from: Graham Martin on Nov 16, 2006, 03:55AMI guess there has to be one in every band.

In this case, it is the trombonist George Brunies; here playing with Bobby Hackett and Pee Wee.

Aside from his dancing and the ability to operate the slide with his foot, George Brunies is a great pioneer of trombone style. He was, originally from New Orleans and played with the New Orleans Rhythm Kings (his solo on Tin Roof Blues is one of the most copied solos of all time), Wild Bill Davisons Commodores, Eddie Condon, Muggsy Spaniers Ragtime Band etc. etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y25486Stfw4

I think the pay for that gig must have been GREAT and Brunis is happy about it!

I watched him several times in Chicago in the 50's and he didn't carry on quite like that!

ttf_marty nichols · Post by **ttf_marty nichols** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:27 pm

Grah,
The "Don't mean a thing" clip with Roy Williams was super! What a "trombonist's trombone player! Out of sight.

The "Old Folks" I thought was reminiscent of the trombonist Bill Harris.

Can't help but be interested in the way he holds the instrument quite still and level, and
simply puts all movement in the slide.

Quote from: Graham Martin on Nov 12, 2006, 07:36PMIt really is amazing how much jazz trombone is becoming available on YouTube. Their Search function also seems to operate very well. Try it with your favourites.

My favourite has always been the British top trombonist Roy Williams. I have followed his career with interest right from the beginning, particularly the long period when he was with the Alex Welsh Band, and my band used to play their intervals. Here are some clips, the first with Alex and the others with Oscar Klein:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyM5DncofUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf_C0DxLuek&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNYiq6dlubw&mode=related&search=

Gees, I have got to get a bigger download allowance!

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:13 pm

I just listened to Roy Willimas on It Don't Mean a Thing. Wow!! What a superb trombonist. I had never heard him play before. He has a very nice fluid, relaxed style of play. His improvisation was very nice and tracked the melody.

Not a bad singing voice either!

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:13 am

Wonderful player! I had not heard this man play before, and I'm happy to have discovered him through this forum and the Internet in general.

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:22 pm

I am so pleased that you guys like Roy Williams.

Roy is a pom like myself and I have been listening to him for 'Oh so long'.

But here is are a couple of my favourite American jazz trombone players.

First, Dan Barrett playing a tune associated with Bix Beiderbecke on a European tour with the New York Allstars. "Wait Till You See My Cherie":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HzgFU1BwvY

And then, George Masso playing "Basin Street Blues" with the World's Greatest Jazzband:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu75bYCDxiY

And just a snippet here about one of our members. I saw Eltel doing the lead on "Basin Street Blues" in what I think was his debut performance with the big band 'Mango Jam' the weekend before last. A lot of those guys have only been playing for a year. Excellent!

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:17 pm

More Watrous...............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqbCCW4f-7k

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:24 pm

Nils Landgren and Pat Metheny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_i7mOrghVQ

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:24 pm

Quote from: Graham Martin on Dec 19, 2006, 05:24PMNils Landgren and Pat Metheny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_i7mOrghVQ

That was very nice!

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:49 pm

This is the Condon Memories All Star Band at the Bern Jazz Festival 1985. Wild Bill Davison trumpet, Warren Veche cornet, Bob Wilber soprano sax, Bill Allred trombone, Bucky Pizzarelli guitar, Dick Wellstood piano, Milt Hinton bass, Jake Hanna drums. A good solo from Father of John, Bill Allred. Still one of my very favourite trombone players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbQ1w5TKrDg

Sweet Georgia Brown from the 1958 Cannes Jazz Festival with a nice solo by Vic Dickenson.

Sydney Bechet, Teddy Buckner, Sammy Price and Arvell Shaw are not hard to take either. Guess who is on drums? Roy Eldridge!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXK1NXVbAI4

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:42 pm

Brief glimpses of Frank Lacy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aII_uHOSEZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9QOX4mD7Aw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdtNsfp9hw8

This one is completely different!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItwAMsYPSx8

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:04 pm

Quote from: zemry on Dec 20, 2006, 08:24PMThat was very nice!

Agreed! Thanks for posting that one Grah!

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:06 pm

FAMU trombone section (Florida A&M University). This is where Wycliffe Gordon matriculated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh8u14ZdRY0

ttf_marty nichols · Post by **ttf_marty nichols** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:51 pm

That clip of a youthful George Masso made me think of Lou McGarity's style.

I never heard Masso back then, only his later stuff. Very, very nice playing!

I asked a question on another Youtube thread and can't find it to get my answer.

Here it is again. When Carl Fontana appeared live, do you know , or think he spent
a lot of time and energy getting the mic "just right " for his soft legato style which was directly into the mic?

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:21 pm

Quote from: marty nichols on Jan 25, 2007, 03:51PMThat clip of a youthful George Masso made me think of Lou McGarity's style.

I never heard Masso back then, only his later stuff. Very, very nice playing!
A very keen ear you have Marty. "Jazz (The Rough Guide)" says that George Masso was inspired to take up trombone in his teens by Lou McGarity's record of "Yours". And of course both played for Benny Goodman.

ttf_DaveAshley · Post by **ttf_DaveAshley** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:09 pm

A nice long Conrad Herwig blues solo just posted on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTHDObASx0

It starts at 5:50 into the clip

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:56 pm

Quote from: DaveAshley on Jan 27, 2007, 04:09PMA nice long Conrad Herwig blues solo just posted on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTHDObASx0

It starts at 5:50 into the clip

It was a nice solo....kindy notey at times though.

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:57 am

Gees, that was a really untidy band and badly recorded. And the solo didn't do anything for me either. I hate to think this is what young players are trying to emulate. Sorry, but that was my honest impression.

ttf_zemry · Post by **ttf_zemry** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:10 am

Quote from: Graham Martin on Jan 28, 2007, 12:57AMGees, that was a really untidy band and badly recorded. And the solo didn't do anything for me either. I hate to think this is what young players are trying to emulate. Sorry, but that was my honest impression.

I got the impression that the band was sight-reading or trying to jell. It didn't seem to me that this was a band that had played together much.

ttf_Ruckus · Post by **ttf_Ruckus** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:10 am

Quote from: Graham Martin on Jan 28, 2007, 12:57AMGees, that was a really untidy band and badly recorded. And the solo didn't do anything for me either. I hate to think this is what young players are trying to emulate. Sorry, but that was my honest impression.

*Isn't hip to Conrad Herwig*

I can respect his technical facility and his accomplishments and ability to make money off of what he does, but I just can't deal with his style of improvisation. I think he gets very notey, and goes out for way to long. The thing is, if he knows what's out, he must know how to play in the changes. His solos just make me think, "OK, so this guys has chops. Great."

ttf_marty nichols · Post by **ttf_marty nichols** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:14 am

Overall I'd say it was a typical handful of choruses in
surroundings that urged Herwig to try and put some interesting things ion.
If a bone player doesn't" do that in a situation like that, he is gong to get "runover".
In the last few bars tha band did , typically, overpower him.It has been mentioned hereabouts before that is is too bad that when up alongside
saxes and trumpets, trombonists have to show off their ability to jump around the horn, often to doubtful ends.

Ahhh,look at me--- what do I know. The man plays fantastic trombone!

ttf_Chris Fidler · Post by **ttf_Chris Fidler** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:28 am

C'mon guys don't judge Conrad on one measley blues solo.
Conrad CAN PLAY ANYTHING and is a master of jazz!!!
He has developed a style which IS uniquely his own and has taken trombone playing to a level that most won't even get near harmonically.
Having said that i guess you don't have to like it.
Especially if what floats your boat doesn't get beyond the 40's/50's