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Can anyone suggest any living, classical trombone players with amazing tone quality that i can listen to?  I already listen to Alessi a lot.

Thanks

Quote from: "amnesiavivace"Can anyone suggest any living, classical trombone players with amazing tone quality that i can listen to?  I already listen to Alessi a lot.

Thanks

Jorgen Van Rijen
Michel Bequet
Christian Lindberg
Steve Witser
Scott Hartman
Mark Lawrence
Nitzan Haroz

Group:
The New Trombone Collective
Paris Trombone Quartet
London Trombone Sound
Four of a Kind

Charlie Vernon.

Simply an amazing model of sound, whether you are a tenor or bass player. Heck, any instrumentalist can get something from his sound!

I would like to add Alain Trudel

Randy Hawes of the Detroit Symphony

Dave Taylor
Stewart Dempster
David Finlayson
Vinko Globokar
Benny Sluchin
Kiril Ribarski

Listening to records for sound is good. Listening to a concert is even better. Sitting in a small room with someone playing in your face is best.

Dave Stewart  - Bass Trombone
Richard Edwards - Tenor & Bass!

Jim Markey

Henry Smith-former principal of the Philadelphia orchestra under Eugene ormandy
Glenn D0dson-former Principal of the Philadelphia Orchestra-from Ormandy threough 1995 under Sawallisch
The Late Robert S. Harper--former Bass trombone of the Philadelphia Orchestra on all the Ormandy recordings

Orchestral tenor players -
Dudley Bright (LSO, previously in the Philharmonia Orchestra)
Derek James (Previously of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra)
Arthur Wilson (Dudley Bright's predecessor in the Philharmonia)
Henry Hardy (particularly while at the Royal Scottish National Orchestra)

Orchestral bass players -
Ray Premru, my personal favourite
Bob Hughes (LSO)

Jazz/commercial trombonists -
Frank Rosolino
Dick Nash
George Roberts

Being a fellow bass player, Ray Premru's playing has the most influence on me. However, there are aspects of others listed above that I draw on in other situations. For example, Henry Hardy and Derek James were terrifically exciting players, while Arthur Wilson always played with a lovely refinement and elegance. When playing jazz or lighter styles of music, I like Frank Rosolino's vibrato and Dick Nash's smoothness.

Just goes to show that it's nice to have a great sound AND know what to do with it, just like George Roberts said.

Yours,
Chris

Oooops, just noticed that the thread ask for LIVING players.

Ray Premru and Frank Rosolino are sadly no longer with us, though their recorded legacies live on. I'm not sure if Dick Nash is still playing, retired or deceased.

Yours,
Chris

Only live listening should count.....you have to REALLY hear a sound.
I'll second Derek James....I heard him in the LPO when I was a student, and was lucky enough to work with him a couple of times in the Royal Philharmonic.....Just stunning in every way.
Denis Wick.....playing at piano in Mahler two....magic.
Bill Reichenbach......velvet from two feet away.
Ben van Dijk.....THE orchestra sound.
Bob Hughes....CLASSIC bassbone.
Dave Taylor....LOTS of sounds.
Mark Nightingale....personal sounds.
So many more...
Chris Stearn.

Jorgen van Rijen, fabulous tone

Doug Wright.  Classic sound, and the cleanest articulation of them all.

Mark Lawrence - Tenor
Stefan Sanders - Bass
Jay Friedman - Tenor
Brett Baker - Tenor
Brandt Attema - Bass
Jim Pugh - Tenor
Phil Wilson - Tenor
Doug Yeo - Bass
George Roberts - Bass
Mark Nightingale - tenor

Quote from: "poozer"Orchestral tenor players -
Dudley Bright (LSO, previously in the Philharmonia Orchestra)
Derek James (Previously of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra)
Arthur Wilson (Dudley Bright's predecessor in the Philharmonia)
Henry Hardy (particularly while at the Royal Scottish National Orchestra)

Orchestral bass players -
Ray Premru, my personal favourite
Bob Hughes (LSO)

Jazz/commercial trombonists -
Frank Rosolino
Dick Nash
George Roberts

Being a fellow bass player, Ray Premru's playing has the most influence on me. However, there are aspects of others listed above that I draw on in other situations. For example, Henry Hardy and Derek James were terrifically exciting players, while Arthur Wilson always played with a lovely refinement and elegance. When playing jazz or lighter styles of music, I like Frank Rosolino's vibrato and Dick Nash's smoothness.

Just goes to show that it's nice to have a great sound AND know what to do with it, just like George Roberts said.

Yours,
Chris

Some great players there. I would also like to add John Iveson and Chris Mowat. Both players with fantastic sounds and great musicians into the bargain.

The principal with the Milwaukee Symphony, Megumi Kanda, has a spectacular sound.  She has a recoring out, the sad thing is she tries to play When the Saints go Marching In with awful results.  DO NOT listen to her for jazz.....  Spectacular classical player though.

I'll third Derek James, i have a couple of recordings with him on and they are phenomenal.  tutors of mine have sat next to him in the orchestra and cannot say enough.  Amazing playing.  Truly phenomenal.

not to brag, but my section in Orchestra la Paz...I get chills just thinking about it!

Quote from: "Thomas Matta"Charlie Vernon.

Simply an amazing model of sound, whether you are a tenor or bass player. Heck, any instrumentalist can get something from his sound!

Absolutely. When he plays, it is like having a nice, warm blanket over you!

I will second Sinfonia's response of Jim Pugh.  The New York Pops just came into the area and did a Tribute to the Dorseys and a tribute to Skitch Henderson, their conductor who founded the Pops, but died like a week or 2 before the concert.  Jim Pugh played the role of Tommy Dorsey.  I was an usher for it and got to sit about 15 ft behind the string bass players, so I was up close and personal to most of the orchestra compared to most of the other 1300 people there.  He played like none other I've ever heard before.  I could not believe my ears after he played.  He soared through the sky with his high notes, his low notes were crisp and clean, and he even incorporated some multiphonics that gave that section of the music and eerie quality, but sounded awesome.  I was astounded.  If I could ever sound half as good as that guy during my lifetime, I'd be happy with myself.  It was just that amazing.

And on a side note, I didnt get to talk to, but I got to stand pretty darn close to the son and daughter of Tommy Dorsey!!!!!!

A lesser known classical (and jazz sometimes) trombonist that I dig is Larry Zalkind the principal of the Utah Symphony. Beautiful, Big sound; everything impeccably executed.  I can recommend one of his CD's "Encore" on the Summit label that is excellent.

I 2nd Galen.  I know Larry; he's a GREAT guy and wonderful player.  I just posted a list of some of my favorite musicians who play trombone under "Virtuosos?"  KM

Quote from: "Orestes"A lesser known classical (and jazz sometimes) trombonist that I dig is Larry Zalkind the principal of the Utah Symphony. Beautiful, Big sound; everything impeccably executed.  I can recommend one of his CD's "Encore" on the Summit label that is excellent.
I'll 2nd this - I have the Encore! CD and listen to it at least 4x/week on the way to/from work.

I really like Carsten Svanberg's sound. I got to hear him a few weeks ago, it was awesome!

How about uh...I dont know if I'm spelling this right...

Nitzan Haroz?? He's in..i think Manhattan School of Music right now?? or was it Mannes??

Another ensemble you might be interested in checking out is Bones Apart, a female trombone quartet - they have a lovely sound.
Check them out at http://www.bonesapart.com

Quote from: "Kumdo0770"How about uh...I dont know if I'm spelling this right...

Nitzan Haroz?? He's in..i think Manhattan School of Music right now?? or was it Mannes??

 

Philadelphia area OTJ'ers recoil in shock

he's with the Philadelphia Orchestra, and teaches at Curtis...

JOSEPH ALESSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot believe nobody has posted his name.
In my view he has the best tone quality of anyone I have heard thus far.

Actually Nitzan has been at Mannes and Manhattan School recently.  He has been rehearsing with Haim Avitsur and Dave Taylor.  I think they are getting ready to record an album of trombone trios.  My favorite trombone sounds are Charlie Vernon, Steve Norrell, Nitzan Haroz, Joe Alessi, Dick Shearer, Dave Taylor (especially his Sinatra and Absolute recordings).  The first time I heard all these guys play LIVE it was life changing--Pat

john kitzman principle of the dallas symphony orchestra!

Quote from: "Blue Hose Bone 311"JOSEPH ALESSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot believe nobody has posted his name.
In my view he has the best tone quality of anyone I have heard thus far.
 

ummmm.... he said he already listens to him and is asking for different ones.

Quote from: "Tenorbone"john kitzman principle of the dallas symphony orchestra!


i was just gonna say that, i personally think he has the best orchestral sound, but then again thats just my opinion

I  had the chance to listen to Michel Bequet a couple of times during the eighties.In my opinion(!!);if tone quality alone matters; He`s number one with Joe Alessi number two with a slight distance down to number three (which I cant make up my mind who is).
As for bass; Charlie Vernon ,Doug Yeo and of course George Roberts(why isn`t he on everybodys list??)George Flynn and John Engelkes also deserves mentioning! Oh, and Wim Becu(sp?), bass sackbut!

tbarh

Mark Lawrence
Michael Mulcahey
Peter Norton
Larry Zalkind
Tim Myers
Roger Oyster

Of course I like the "usual suspects"...but these are guys who I don't hear much talk about, but I really LOVE their sounds.

harold van schaik of the florida orchestra

IMO, any top notch orchestral player these days has good tone.  Theres no way someones winning a job with poor tone.

Quote from: "jft"IMO, any top notch orchestral player these days has good tone.  Theres no way someones winning a job with poor tone.
this may be stupid, but what's IMO mean?!?!?!

In My Opinion

Gary Valente has really good tone quality!!

Yeah!  And Roswell Rudd too!!!

What is "good" tone quality?  Pretty? Or is it something that speaks to you?

OK OK, so they're not classical players......

Blair Bollinger probably had the most beautiful bass bone sound I've ever heard live.  Mmm mmmm......

tenor and alto trombone:

Michel Becquet , Braimir Slokar, Jorgen van de Rien, Joseph Alessi, Thomas Horch (former berlin philharmonic, now in Munich) , Alain Trudel,Christian Lindberg, Jacques Mauger (French soloist, former member of the Paris opera) ,Gilles Milière (professor at the Conservatoire de Paris), Danny Bonvin and Dankwart Schmidt (both Munich philharmonic), Olaf Ott and Christhard Gössling (both Berlin philharmonic), Jürgen Heinel (Berlin opera - Staatskapelle), Oliver Siefert (Broadcast symphnoy orchestra of Frankfurt and professor in Frankfurt), Stefan Geiger (Broadcast Symphony orchestra and professor in Hamburg), Hendricus Ries (Broadcast symphony orchestra of Cologne and former member of German Brass)), Enrique Crespo (former Broadcast symphony  of Stuttgart and German brass foundator), Georg Wiegel (Rotterdam philharmonic I think)

Bass and contrabass trombone:

Ben van Dijk, Volker Hensiek (Bamberg Symphony), Joachim Mittelacher, Siegfried Cieslik, Hermann Bäumer (all former member of the Berlin philharmonic I think), Uwe Füssel (Munich opera and German Brass), Stephan Poppe (Hamburg opera and former member of german Brass),
David Stewart (London Brass), Markus Blechner (Munich Broadcast Symphony),

I know several of them are not well known outside of their country, but I really appreciated the tone of all of them.

Quote from: "Ari"I would like to add Alain Trudel
just what i was going to say
also, i believe his sit has a few sample songs on it

Quote from: "Tenorbone"john kitzman principle of the dallas symphony orchestra!

so, i haven't heard it yet but my teacher says that his fave rendition of mahler 3 is by john kitzman.  

and i am shocked and appalled that Joe Alessi wasn't the first person mentioned let alone not until halfway through the second page.

~grant

Conrad Herwig has a nice smooth tone. He's not classical but he's good anyway.

Quote from: "healthytrombone"Quote from: "Tenorbone"john kitzman principle of the dallas symphony orchestra!

so, i haven't heard it yet but my teacher says that his fave rendition of mahler 3 is by john kitzman.  

and i am shocked and appalled that Joe Alessi wasn't the first person mentioned let alone not until halfway through the second page.

~grant

just kidding, i must have forgotten that Alessi was mentioned first.

~grant

That Bob Cochran has a dang nice tone.

( I can say that since I don't play for a living and I don't have to worry about gettin' the I-saw-you-braggin'-on-da-forum-and-I'd-blacklist-you-if-I-could-you-egotistical-son-of-a-gun stink-eye from other pros in my area. )

But seriously, I sound really really nice, just ask me! And seriously handsome! And really cool and modest!

VERY bad taste in ties, though, I'm told. A few have been unkind enough to point out my overweight condition and duck feet...and my frequent sight-reading errors...and no jazz improv skills these days, way rusty...don't always play perfectly in tune...still make time/rhythm mistakes...kids point at me and laugh, dogs bark at me, cats hiss.....

But I sounds good, I sez!

Oh yeah...

Ian McDougall!  No one plays prettier.  Some have played as pretty, like Urbie and a few rare others.  And it's not a sickly-sweet pretty, it's always tasteful, always warm, always examplary.  A hugely underrated player, at least on this forum.

I second James Markey he has such a nice legato, and my bass trombone hero is Randy Hawes, I think I melted that CD from listening to it so many times.

OK, OK, I know you said classical players, but . . .

JJ Johnson.  Mr. Tone, for my money, in the jazz world and if memory serves influential for Mr. Alessi as well.  Which is probably why I like his tone for classical players best.

Totally subjective, but Alessi and Johnson create(d) my favorite tones!

Oh, dat's right, first post did specify classical, oh well.....great tone is great tone.