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Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:44 am
by Spemrick
For those of you interested in seeing Steve‘s new instruments, here’s the Stephens horn I took possession of in December up against my Shires custom.
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:26 am
by walldaja
Any difference in feel through the valve? Thx
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:33 am
by Spemrick
The Stephens horn is a little more open through the F side, I have the dual bore on my Shires. Both valves are great and I could be happy for the rest of my life with either one of them.
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:20 pm
by Digidog
What valves are there on the respective horn?
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:55 pm
by bassbone1993
Looks like Caidex (not sure on the spelling) for Stephen's and one of the rotors for Shires
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:24 pm
by Burgerbob
That's not a Caidex. Bosc maybe
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:25 pm
by GabrielRice
This is a rotor Steve is having made specifically for him.
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:09 pm
by Spemrick
Thanks Gabe, you can see the full explanation of the valve that Steve is using in the Stephens trombone thread that is also in the instruments forum. What I can tell you is that it plays great, my Shires horn has a dual bore.
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:29 am
by Tbarh
Is it just my aging eyes or is there a difference in bell shape /flare throat size? Conn and Bach shaped maybe ?
Trond
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 8:27 pm
by Posaunus
GabrielRice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:25 pm
This is a rotor Steve is having made specifically for him.
The Stephens Brass Instruments trombone rotor has been discussed in (agonizing) detail in a previous thread:
viewtopic.php?p=193293#p193293
I would guess that this rotary valve - which uses some of the ideas proposed (and patented) by Benny Leonard (Patent now expired), as well as some additional improvements / advances - is pretty special, and probably plays like a charm.
Re: Shires and Stephen’s side by side
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 11:10 pm
by JohnL
Is it just me, or does that one branch on the Stephens f-attachment look kinda like something George McCracken might have done?