Holton small and medium bore trombones

[Bach5G]

I don’t know much about Holton small/medium bore trombones. What models pre- and post- the LeBlanc purchase were similar in size to 2Bs and 3Bs? Maybe something like the Martin Urbie Green? Small bore Holtons get virtually no love whatsoever on this site.

[BGuttman]

As I understand them, the 65, 67, and 69 are all small bores.

I own a 67, also called Stratodyne. I'd call it equivalent to a Conn 48H. Great horn for big band. Great horn for Dixieland. Mine came from the estate of a guy who used it in both.

[officermayo]

My 1966 Special is .500.

[Doug Elliott]

I have one of these, which seems to be .500/.508 but I don't know if it had a model name or when it was from.

Should be around 1940, their movie Saps at Sea

[Finetales]

As far as I know:

62 = ?
63 = .480-.495"/7.5"
64 Resotone = ?
65 = .485"/7" or 7.5" rose brass
66 Galaxy = .485-.500"/7" (67 mandrel) all nickel
67 Stratodyne = .485"/7" rose brass
69 = .485"/8" rose brass - .481-.491
TR-100 Virtuoso = .500"/8" rose brass
TR-101 = .485/7.5" - .509"
TR-102 = .485"/7" - .485-.509"/8" or 7.75"
TR-401N Galaxy = .485-.500"/7 3/8"
TR-501 Special = .500"/8"
TR-602 = .500"/8" (student model)

[ithinknot]

Some of that isn't right...

My 69 is a .481-.491 dual; in the 2B manner, the stockings match so you can't tell just from flipping the outer slide.

TR-101 was a straight .509/7.5" yellow
TR-102 was a dual .495-.509/supposedly 8" yellow; the bell was obviously shared with the Martin Urbie, and the one I had, like some Urbies, was actually 7 3/4"

Both are super rare - I've only ever seen one of each for sale, and the TR-102 was mine... it was the first horn my parents bought for me.

[Finetales]

Corrections noted. This is just what I've been able to find out of the sparse information on the Internet.

[dcslideman]

I have a 1965 model 65 which I think I saw somewhere was the last year it was made. It was advertised as a Buddy Morrow endorsee. I can confirm .485" bore, bell just a shade under 7 1/2". Depending on semantics it has gold/rose bell. It plays big, much bigger than .485 would indicate, and can make a lot of volume if you want.

[chromebone]

The only pro-level medium bore they made that I’m aware of was the TR-161, which was made in the 90’s-early 2000’s.