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Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:44 am
by Mamaposaune
Does anyone know what material can be used to re-foam this Best Brass practice mute that my dog got hold of?
Hoping to be able to buy a sheet or small roll and cut new pieces now that I have one to use for a pattern.

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:09 am
by baileyman
Stuff like that shows up in packing material, carpet foam, resilient floor cover, playroom cushion, etc. If all else fails, check a maps app for "foam".

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:32 am
by ghmerrill
I presume you've already found things like this?: viewtopic.php?t=6870

I might try the (smooth -- not waffled) "shelf" or "drawer" liner you can find in places like lowes and home depot. But it may not be thick enough. Maybe use spray-on contact cement to glue two layers together, and then cut and apply to mute?

Hmmm ... Now that I think of it, the waffled might work as well because it would still seal. And it's thicker.

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:41 am
by OneTon
Get some sheet cork from a hobby store or auto parts store. I would use 3m trim adhesive from the auto parts store for adhesive. If you’re not feeling creative, a music instrument repair shop can re-cork it properly.

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:51 am
by baileyman
A place to look for small bits like the foam you need is a thrift store. Many times I've bought something just to tear apart for materials for something else.

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:56 am
by harrisonreed
The hobby stores, like Michaels, sell that foam in large sheets.

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:11 am
by Mamaposaune
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I should have mentioned that I already tried pieces cut from a sheet of self-stick foam from a craft store, it looked about right but ended up being too soft and squishy, and would not have held up for long.
Turns out I had a sheet of cork, it is about double the thickness but I am going to try it. I cut 3 pieces to size, soaked in warm water to soften and they are currently strapped to the mute so they conform to the shape, then I'll sand them down a bit.
I'll attach with double-sided tape and give it a try before gluing on permanently.

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:22 am
by ghmerrill
A process of successive refinement is often a good approach.

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:28 pm
by Crazy4Tbone86
Mamaposaune wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:11 am Thanks for the suggestions so far. I should have mentioned that I already tried pieces cut from a sheet of self-stick foam from a craft store, it looked about right but ended up being too soft and squishy, and would not have held up for long.
Turns out I had a sheet of cork, it is about double the thickness but I am going to try it. I cut 3 pieces to size, soaked in warm water to soften and they are currently strapped to the mute so they conform to the shape, then I'll sand them down a bit.
I'll attach with double-sided tape and give it a try before gluing on permanently.
Another step is to “tenderize” the cork by pounding it with a rawhide mallet. It makes the cork softer and more malleable. I was taught this by a few woodwind technician friends and I use this technique for thicker cork replacements on things like saxophone necks (connection to the mouthpiece).

Re: Best Brass Practice Mute Repair

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:17 am
by Mamaposaune
[This is helpful, since I have to back-step. The cork, which appears to be about twice as thick as the original, sort of works (attached with carpet tape) but the pitches are more unstable, especially in the lower register.
Easily removable, so I will pound them and sand them down some more before using contact cement.

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Mamaposaune wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:11 am Thanks for the suggestions so far. I should have mentioned that I already tried pieces cut from a sheet of self-stick foam from a craft store, it looked about right but ended up being too soft and squishy, and would not have held up for long.
Turns out I had a sheet of cork, it is about double the thickness but I am going to try it. I cut 3 pieces to size, soaked in warm water to soften and they are currently strapped to the mute so they conform to the shape, then I'll sand them down a bit.
I'll attach with double-sided tape and give it a try before gluing on permanently.
Another step is to “tenderize” the cork by pounding it with a rawhide mallet. It makes the cork softer and more malleable. I was taught this by a few woodwind technician friends and I use this technique for thicker cork replacements on things like saxophone necks (connection to the mouthpiece).
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