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Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:43 pm
by BrianJohnston
A nice little video on this rainy midwest day


Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:36 pm
by hyperbolica
There is a tbone quartet on Musescore of a brief arrangement of this tune. The first part goes to Db. If you know the tune from Willy Wonka, it's a really beautiful song. Musescore sheet music Pure Imagination (Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory) Trombone Quartet
https://musescore.com/user/12065571/scores/5981174

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:49 pm
by Doug Elliott
Complete with the usual dumb rhythmic notation

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:37 am
by hyperbolica
Doug Elliott wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:49 pm Complete with the usual dumb rhythmic notation
What do you mean by that?

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:05 am
by harrisonreed
I think he's referring to the dotted eighth - sixteenth figures, lame notation font (inappropriate for style), possibly lack of articulations, and probably choice of extreme slow tempo to fit the double time rhythms used.

It should be dotted quarter with eighths

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Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:35 am
by Doug Elliott
Look at the last two bars of the score, the 1st and 2nd endings. (The Musescore quartet chart link)

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:59 am
by harrisonreed
That too! 🤣

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:20 am
by Doug Elliott
The first ending needs to be written with meter changes. 1/8, 2/4, 3/8
That would make it clear and much easier to read.
And of course then it would actually be correct notation.

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:37 am
by JohnL
If I read the tea leaves correctly, it was arranged by a high school student. In that case, I'd call it a promising early effort, but in need of a few refinements. It's unlikely the kid had received much, if any, training in theory, orchestration, or music copying at the time.

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:21 am
by ithinknot
The lousy harmony bothers me much more than any of the visuals but, as John suggests, it is what it is.

Brian must have enjoyed this discussion

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:55 pm
by AndrewMeronek
I've seen several arrangements of this tune lately - it's a great tune and definitely one of the highlights from the original Willie Wonka. However, keep in mind copyrights if someone intends to use stuff like this for more than personal entertainment.

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:00 pm
by brassmedic
AndrewMeronek wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:55 pm I've seen several arrangements of this tune lately - it's a great tune and definitely one of the highlights from the original Willie Wonka. However, keep in mind copyrights if someone intends to use stuff like this for more than personal entertainment.
MuseScore does claim to have licensing agreements and the membership fee you are charged supposedly covers this, but it looks kind of sketchy to me:

https://musescore.com/groups/improving- ... ss/5044610

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:21 pm
by BrianJohnston
ithinknot wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:21 am The lousy harmony bothers me much more than any of the visuals but, as John suggests, it is what it is.

Brian must have enjoyed this discussion
Loved it

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:48 pm
by hyperbolica
Doug Elliott wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:35 am Look at the last two bars of the score, the 1st and 2nd endings. (The Musescore quartet chart link)
Oh, yeah, that. It's Musescore, you get a lot of that. People who don't know how music or notation should work, in addition to those who can't make the software comply.

The good thing about Musescore is that you can find ideas and starting points, or even fixer-upper projects. I like to see chord changes on stuff like this, but you get what you get. Beautiful song though, always loved it from the original movie.

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:13 pm
by CalgaryTbone
That was really well-played Brian! I loved it.

Jim Scott

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:26 pm
by Doug Elliott
Yes I have used Musescore arrangements as starting points for my own arrangements before.

Re: Pure Imagination Trombone Solo

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:36 am
by MrHCinDE
After listening to the Toby Oft solo version a while back, I went through a phase of driving my wife (and dog) crazy by using it as part of a test portfolio for various slide/bell combinations. It was a slightly unhealthy obsession. The tune starts to get a bit creepy after a few repetitions.