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34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:21 am
by AlexBassBone
Hello! I'm new here, I'm writing this post to ask if there's anyone out there who can give their opinion.

I had always played with very deep cups and large and wide bores, but for a few months now I have been playing with a 34mm deep and 7'5 bore mouthpiece and I am super happy.

What is the minimum cup depth you think is appropriate for bass trombone? Think 34mm is too shallow?

Thank you all! :good:

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:18 pm
by Posaunus
How is "cup depth" measured? I've never quite understood this spec. Not all manufacturers give this info.

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:27 am
by AlexBassBone
Hi! so in theory it is measured from the rim to where the bore begins to open.

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:28 am
by WGWTR180
What’s the inner rim diameter?

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:35 am
by BigBadandBass
There is no minimum and maximum allowed depth, there are just ones that typically sound worse and some that typically sound better. I would be curious to know what piece you are using

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:48 am
by AlexBassBone
WGWTR180 wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:28 am What’s the inner rim diameter?
Hi! The inner rim diameter is 27'5mm :good:

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:50 am
by AlexBassBone
BigBadandBass wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:35 am There is no minimum and maximum allowed depth, there are just ones that typically sound worse and some that typically sound better. I would be curious to know what piece you are using
Well yes, in the end it's something subjective... I really like it at the moment.

It is a modular mouthpiece from Romera Brass, Catalonia (Spain) :hi:

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:41 am
by WGWTR180
AlexBassBone wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:48 am
WGWTR180 wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:28 am What’s the inner rim diameter?
Hi! The inner rim diameter is 27'5mm :good:
Ok. Well, for me, that might be a bit deep. However shape and a million other factors play into it.

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:52 pm
by Kevbach33
34mm isn't outside the realm of possibility, even in that diameter. For instance, going off Giddings' spec sheet, the Adriano (id 27.83mm) has a cup depth of 36.7mm. That's deeper than the specs for the Nor'Easter (34.16mm depth with a 29.06mm diameter).

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:01 pm
by Doug Elliott
To me, specifying "cup depth" that way is absurd.
If the throat is higher or lower but everything else is the same, those are different cup depths?

Re: 34mm cup depth for bass trombone?

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:35 am
by ZacharyThornton
^ this.