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Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:58 pm
by BrianJohnston
Hi all,
I wanted to start a thread of all of the pro trombonists I know that are playing Bach trombones from any of the New York/MV eras 30s-60s. Here are the ones I am aware of, please add to the list:
Jay Friedman - MV42
Charlie Vernon - NY50
Mike Szabo - MV50
David Binder - MV42
Rick Stout - MV42
Christopher Davis - MV50
Brad White - MV42
Brian Johnston - MV42
Athos Castellan - NY50
Micha Davis - MV50
Tim Higgins - MV42
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:46 pm
by mbarbier
Rick Stout in Cleveland plays a MV 42 (think he has one with a Thayer and one with original valve)
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:02 am
by greenbean
Are you including the Corp-era horns? Bach made some great horns during those years and, if an orchestral pro is playing one, it is probably one of them!
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:48 am
by BrianJohnston
greenbean wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:02 am
Are you including the Corp-era horns? Bach made some great horns during those years and, if an orchestral pro is playing one, it is probably one of them!
I wasn't originally, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to include those horns as well. As long as there is specification:
EX.:
NY50
MV50
Corp42
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:14 pm
by biggiesmalls
Chris Buckholz (Army Jazz Ambassadors lead trombone 1997-2005, currently 2nd trombone Santa Fe Opera) has been playing a MV12LT as his primary jazz horn for a few years.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:28 am
by Vegasbound
Several top freelance players here in the UK play Bach 6’s such as Gordon Campbell,Richard Edwards plans a MT Vernon 16
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:46 am
by Pezza
I play a Corp 12!
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:39 pm
by JoeAumann
Why?
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:21 pm
by Matt K
You could add the recently retired Bones Malone but it would be easier to make a list of the horns he didn’t play from this era judging by the consignment sale of his horns that went down recently.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:38 am
by BrianJohnston
JoeAumann wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:39 pmWhy?
Why not?
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:58 am
by PVH
Brian,
I have been playing a NY36B for a while now. I have been enjoying it quite a bit.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:43 pm
by dukesboneman
I play a Mount Vernon Lt 36
and a 1st year elkhart 12 (Mount Vernon parts)
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 pm
by Massimo69
Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:30 am
by Fidbone
Massimo69 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 pm
Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.
Gordon has always played a Bach 6 which has been customised

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:59 am
by Oslide
Do you happen to know in which way it has been customised? Thank you!
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:08 am
by BrianJohnston
Massimo69 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 pm
Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.
Pretty sure he plays a Mt vernon 6...
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:35 am
by Fidbone
Oslide wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:59 am
Do you happen to know in which way it has been customised? Thank you!
He had the bell stays filled with lead

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:37 am
by Fidbone
BrianJohnston wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:08 am
Massimo69 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 pm
Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.
Pretty sure he plays a Mt vernon 6...
Could well be, last time I played his horn which was a long time ago it was a Corp with a 7.5 inch bell and lightweight nickel slide. One of the best 6's I've ever had the pleasure of blowing!
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:53 pm
by Oslide
By chance just hit upon a very short (1:30) interview with Cordon Campbell where he mentions that he's playing a "Vincent Bach, an old Mount Vernon, V11 bell, original brass".
Took me a while to realize what he meant by "V one one"

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Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:05 am
by Fidbone
Must have changed bell's or full bone at some point.
I've not been with him since he had a full head of hair.......

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:06 am
by Massimo69
I seen on his bell 16 corporation anyway maybe mistake...
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:11 am
by Massimo69
Birch Johnson mod 6 with 16M slide, Tom Malone 16m mt vernon but he have around 20 of those, Bill Watrous played a Peppy's pettinato customized 16M 1940 bach.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:12 am
by Massimo69
Carl Fontana played a 12 corp customized
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:55 am
by BrianJohnston
Oslide wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:53 pm
By chance just hit upon a very short (1:30) interview with Cordon Campbell where he mentions that he's playing a "Vincent Bach, an old Mount Vernon, V11 bell, original brass".
Took me a while to realize what he meant by "V one one"

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Thanks for this! He's got one of the best trombone sounds i've ever heard.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:42 pm
by gbedinger
I now play an early Corp 50b.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 12:45 pm
by dukesboneman
I play NY 16, Corp. Lt12, Mount Vernon 12 slide with 1990 8G Bell, Mount Vernon Lt36, Corp. 42BO and Corp. 50B3.
I would love a NY 12
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:40 pm
by BrianJohnston
dukesboneman wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 12:45 pm
I play NY 16, Corp. Lt12, Mount Vernon 12 slide with 1990 8G Bell, Mount Vernon Lt36, Corp. 42BO and Corp. 50B3.
I would love a NY 12
Nice list. I’d like a NY or MV34… someday.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:49 pm
by Finetales
Matt Niess (recently retired lead trombonist in the Army Blues) has played on an old Bach 6 forever - don't know what era though. Anyone know?
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:03 am
by robseaman
I think he is currently playing a Martin Imperial as his Jazz. Large bore he plays Edwards.
Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 5:26 am
by Matt K
Yeah, he picked up that Martin at a pawn shop somewhere around 2010, IIRC. It's since been modified by BAC to have a modular F attachment / neckpipe and the Army star on the tuning slide.