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Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:58 pm
by BrianJohnston
Hi all,

I wanted to start a thread of all of the pro trombonists I know that are playing Bach trombones from any of the New York/MV eras 30s-60s. Here are the ones I am aware of, please add to the list:

Jay Friedman - MV45
Charlie Vernon - NY50
Mike Szabo - MV50
David Binder - MV42

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:46 pm
by mbarbier
Rick Stout in Cleveland plays a MV 42 (think he has one with a Thayer and one with original valve)

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:02 am
by greenbean
Are you including the Corp-era horns? Bach made some great horns during those years and, if an orchestral pro is playing one, it is probably one of them!

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:48 am
by BrianJohnston
greenbean wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:02 am Are you including the Corp-era horns? Bach made some great horns during those years and, if an orchestral pro is playing one, it is probably one of them!
I wasn't originally, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to include those horns as well. As long as there is specification:

EX.:
NY50
MV50
Corp42

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:14 pm
by biggiesmalls
Chris Buckholz (Army Jazz Ambassadors lead trombone 1997-2005, currently 2nd trombone Santa Fe Opera) has been playing a MV12LT as his primary jazz horn for a few years.

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:28 am
by Vegasbound
Several top freelance players here in the UK play Bach 6’s such as Gordon Campbell,Richard Edwards plans a MT Vernon 16

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:46 am
by Pezza
I play a Corp 12!

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:39 pm
by JoeAumann
Why?

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:21 pm
by Matt K
You could add the recently retired Bones Malone but it would be easier to make a list of the horns he didn’t play from this era judging by the consignment sale of his horns that went down recently.

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:38 am
by BrianJohnston
JoeAumann wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:39 pmWhy?
Why not?

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:58 am
by PVH
Brian,

I have been playing a NY36B for a while now. I have been enjoying it quite a bit.

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:43 pm
by dukesboneman
I play a Mount Vernon Lt 36
and a 1st year elkhart 12 (Mount Vernon parts)

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 pm
by Massimo69
Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:30 am
by Fidbone
Massimo69 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 pm Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.
Gordon has always played a Bach 6 which has been customised :wink:

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:59 am
by Oslide
Do you happen to know in which way it has been customised? Thank you!

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:08 am
by BrianJohnston
Massimo69 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 pm Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.
Pretty sure he plays a Mt vernon 6...

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:35 am
by Fidbone
Oslide wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:59 am Do you happen to know in which way it has been customised? Thank you!
He had the bell stays filled with lead :eek:

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:37 am
by Fidbone
BrianJohnston wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:08 am
Massimo69 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 pm Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.
Pretty sure he plays a Mt vernon 6...
Could well be, last time I played his horn which was a long time ago it was a Corp with a 7.5 inch bell and lightweight nickel slide. One of the best 6's I've ever had the pleasure of blowing!

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:53 pm
by Oslide
By chance just hit upon a very short (1:30) interview with Cordon Campbell where he mentions that he's playing a "Vincent Bach, an old Mount Vernon, V11 bell, original brass".

Took me a while to realize what he meant by "V one one" :wink: .


Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:05 am
by Fidbone
Must have changed bell's or full bone at some point.
I've not been with him since he had a full head of hair....... :shuffle:

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:06 am
by Massimo69
I seen on his bell 16 corporation anyway maybe mistake...

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:11 am
by Massimo69
Birch Johnson mod 6 with 16M slide, Tom Malone 16m mt vernon but he have around 20 of those, Bill Watrous played a Peppy's pettinato customized 16M 1940 bach.

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:12 am
by Massimo69
Carl Fontana played a 12 corp customized

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:55 am
by BrianJohnston
Oslide wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:53 pm By chance just hit upon a very short (1:30) interview with Cordon Campbell where he mentions that he's playing a "Vincent Bach, an old Mount Vernon, V11 bell, original brass".

Took me a while to realize what he meant by "V one one" :wink: .

Thanks for this! He's got one of the best trombone sounds i've ever heard.

Re: Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:42 pm
by gbedinger
I now play an early Corp 50b.