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Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:36 pm
by EriKon
Just found this one and completely blown away :amazed:

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:54 pm
by Matt K
I have listened to that track of Bruckner 8 probably more than a thousand times. I love that album

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:06 pm
by BrianJohnston
THE Gold standard. There are many substantial low brass sections, but when someone asks me which was the best of all time, I usually go with THIS one.

I'm thankful to have studied with Jay Friedman in college & Civic.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:37 pm
by BassBoneFL
50+yrs later it is a revelation to yet another generation.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:56 am
by sjkca
THE highest benchmark. Although there are numerous substantial low brass parts, I typically choose THIS one when someone asks which was the best of all time.I'm appreciative of having taken classes with Jay Friedman in college and civic. I work as a chair.
Thank you.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:29 am
by ithinknot
BrianJohnston wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:06 pm THE Gold standard. There are many substantial low brass sections, but when someone asks me which was the best of all time, I usually go with THIS one.

I'm thankful to have studied with Jay Friedman in college & Civic.
sjkca wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:56 am THE highest benchmark. Although there are numerous substantial low brass parts, I typically choose THIS one when someone asks which was the best of all time.I'm appreciative of having taken classes with Jay Friedman in college and civic. I work as a chair.
Thank you.
Greetings, paraphrasebot3000! May your work as a chair be crowned with a thousand butts.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:08 am
by SwissTbone
sjkca wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:56 am I work as a chair.
I hope your employer doesn't have weight issues.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:24 am
by BrianJohnston
sjkca wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:56 am THE highest benchmark. Although there are numerous substantial low brass parts, I typically choose THIS one when someone asks which was the best of all time.I'm appreciative of having taken classes with Jay Friedman in college and civic. I work as a chair.
Thank you.
wtf is this?

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:35 am
by CalgaryTbone
Nice to see that trolls have a place to spend their days too. Don't take it personally Brian - he's taking a break from singing the praises of horse dewormer on a "health" site.

JS

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:02 am
by BrianJohnston
Yup. Clearly someone who can't win a spot in a community band with 4-5 trombone openings, and they're the only one auditioning.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:26 am
by Elow
That is really weird, reminds me of when i would put an article into an AI website and it would give me a reworded essay for school… i learned a lot

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:52 pm
by Matt K
Obviously someone who wanted to spam the forum. They’re gone now.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:33 pm
by CalgaryTbone
This is off-topic a bit, but since we're talking about the CSO section, has anyone heard anything about the open Associate position there? I had heard that filling it was not as big a priority as 1st Trumpet & 1st Horn which are essentially the same audition committee, so it is a scheduling issue (needing to schedule auditions during Music Director weeks). I'm just curious at this point - although if I thought I could get the job at this point, I would be a "kid" next to Jay!

What a great brass legacy in the CSO!

Jim Scott

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:12 pm
by Posaunus
Looking forward to hearing the current Chicago Symphony Orchestra in person here in California on January 24.
Riccardo Muti conducting. Concert program:
BEETHOVEN: Symphony No. 7
LIADOV: The Enchanted Lake, Op. 62
MUSSORGSKY/RAVEL: Pictures at an Exhibition

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:23 pm
by BGuttman
Too bad Beethoven 7 doesn't call for trombones (but it has a neat 2nd Bassoon part that I covered on trombone once).

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:08 pm
by Posaunus
Apparently no trombones in the Liadov, either. :(
"The Enchanted Lake is written for a symphonic orchestra with three flutes, two oboes, three clarinets, two bassoons, four horns, timpani, celesta, bass drum, harp and strings."
It's only 7½ minutes.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:48 am
by BrianJohnston
CalgaryTbone wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:33 pm This is off-topic a bit, but since we're talking about the CSO section, has anyone heard anything about the open Associate position there?
They're leaving it open as a sort of internship for the Civic Orchestra guys to sub in Chicago Symphony more often.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:37 am
by GabrielRice
BrianJohnston wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:48 am
CalgaryTbone wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:33 pm This is off-topic a bit, but since we're talking about the CSO section, has anyone heard anything about the open Associate position there?
They're leaving it open as a sort of internship for the Civic Orchestra guys to sub in Chicago Symphony more often.
Which - for better or worse, depending on your perspective - saves the CSO a lot of money in salary and benefits.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:55 am
by brtnats
I’m a CSO subscriber. Heard them do Saint-Saëns 3 last month and the CSO brass concert. Just…the very best of ensemble playing.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:11 pm
by Matt K
Posaunus wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:12 pm Looking forward to hearing the current Chicago Symphony Orchestra in person here in California on January 24.
Riccardo Muti conducting. Concert program:
BEETHOVEN: Symphony No. 7
LIADOV: The Enchanted Lake, Op. 62
MUSSORGSKY/RAVEL: Pictures at an Exhibition
:eek: That's a LONG concert. Anything less than the CSO and I'd say the trumpet section would be falling out of their chairs by the time they get to the Gate of Kiev

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:28 pm
by GabrielRice
Matt K wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:11 pm
Posaunus wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:12 pm Looking forward to hearing the current Chicago Symphony Orchestra in person here in California on January 24.
Riccardo Muti conducting. Concert program:
BEETHOVEN: Symphony No. 7
LIADOV: The Enchanted Lake, Op. 62
MUSSORGSKY/RAVEL: Pictures at an Exhibition
:eek: That's a LONG concert. Anything less than the CSO and I'd say the trumpet section would be falling out of their chairs by the time they get to the Gate of Kiev
Not really...about 90 minutes of music. I'll bet the assistant principal will play Beethoven (which is brutal and pretty thankless for 1st trumpet). Pictures has a lot of resting time in between some very exposed playing for the principal trumpet, and the big blow is at the end.

There isn't actually that much for the trombones to play in Pictures, but what there is is great. I'm sure it will be more than worth the price of admission!

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:41 pm
by Matt K
Huh, I remember Pictures being a lot longer than that. Maybe I was just stressed out waiting to do the Euph solo on Bydlo and it made it feel longer!

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:51 pm
by Posaunus
Matt K wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:11 pm
Posaunus wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:12 pm Looking forward to hearing the current Chicago Symphony Orchestra in person here in California on January 24.
Riccardo Muti conducting. Concert program:
BEETHOVEN: Symphony No. 7
LIADOV: The Enchanted Lake, Op. 62
MUSSORGSKY/RAVEL: Pictures at an Exhibition
:eek: That's a LONG concert. Anything less than the CSO and I'd say the trumpet section would be falling out of their chairs by the time they get to the Gate of Kiev
Nah.
Beethoven 7: ~42 minutes. No low brass; 2 trumpets, 2 horns
Liadov: ~7½ minutes. No low brass; 4 horns
Mussorgsky/Ravel: ~33 minutes. (Very) full orchestra Great for the brass players to play! All will be exhilarated.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:41 pm
by Posaunus
For those who want to know how well the CSO has played "Pictures"

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:43 pm
by OldWetOneCanoli
Posaunus wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:41 pm For those who want to know how well the CSO has played "Pictures"
When I was a student in Wisconsin, around 1980 I heard CSO with Solti play Pictures in their hall on Michigan Ave. We were in the nosebleed seats, but it was awesome - the entire brass section, but especially Herseth. Every so often we would hear them play in the summer at Ravinia.

Re: Chicago Symphony Section Recording

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:26 am
by Posaunus
Posaunus wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:12 pm Looking forward to hearing the current Chicago Symphony Orchestra in person here in California on January 24.
Riccardo Muti conducting. Concert program:
BEETHOVEN: Symphony No. 7
LIADOV: The Enchanted Lake, Op. 62
MUSSORGSKY/RAVEL: Pictures at an Exhibition
Follow-up. Attended the concert last night.
Bottom line: The Chicago Symphony Orchestra is a remarkable ensemble! (But you already knew that.)

Riccardo Muti is retiring after this season, so this is his last tour with the orchestra. Perhaps it's my imagination, but it seemed to me that he was really giving it his all. I thought I knew Beethoven's 7th, but the performance was revelatory. So much detail could be heard in our wonderful Segerstrom Concert Hall, and the soloists and ensemble playing were extraordinary (especially the 4 horns). Of course the Pictures from an Exhibition was magnificent, showing off all the power and virtuosity of this orchestra. And a special nod to Maestro Muti, who at the beginning of the concert had the entire audience stand in silence for 60 seconds in recognition of the recent violence in California and in sympathy for the victims.

If you have the chance, attend as many live concerts as you can. Music does touch the soul.