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Re: A VALVELESS F-ATTACHMENT TROMBONE!!??

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:38 am
by BGuttman
We discussed this before (I just can't find the topic).

Re: A VALVELESS F-ATTACHMENT TROMBONE!!??

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:33 pm
by robcat2075
Here is the old topic...

rotorless F attachment. You read that right

It seems to me it is still a valve, however.

Re: A VALVELESS F-ATTACHMENT TROMBONE!!??

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:02 pm
by BGuttman
It's shifting pipes. I guess it's no different in function than a Vienna Valve, but the "valveless" claim is because there is no rotor, piston, Axial, Hagmann, K, Miller, erc.

Re: A VALVELESS F-ATTACHMENT TROMBONE!!??

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:26 pm
by greenbean
It is a solution in search of a problem!

Re: A VALVELESS F-ATTACHMENT TROMBONE!!??

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:22 pm
by heldenbone
Those unable to remember that past...

Reference Shaw's disc valve, which by contemporary accounts was afflicted with significant leakage trouble.

http://collections.nmmusd.org/UtleyPage ... qDisc.html

Re: A VALVELESS F-ATTACHMENT TROMBONE!!??

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:45 am
by brassmedic
This guy has posted videos of his own valve without the annoying computer voice. I think he called it "rotorless", not "valveless". It obviously is a valve. Just a unique type. And yes, it is similar to the concept of the disc valve.

Re: A VALVELESS F-ATTACHMENT TROMBONE!!??

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:47 am
by brassmedic
greenbean wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:26 pm It is a solution in search of a problem!
I disagree. The holy grail of trombone is a valve that plays exactly like a straight horn plays. I think it's quite ingenious. Would love to try it.

Re: A VALVELESS F-ATTACHMENT TROMBONE!!??

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:14 am
by harrisonreed
Whoaaaa, did you discovered this??!?

LoL, robot voice comment. Yet another video with almost no original content, just ripped videos from other people's pages, posted on an ad enabled channel.