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Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:20 pm
by Reedman1
Which bells fit 2B (besides actual 2B bells)? I have a project in mind, and don't want to sacrifice my excellent Peppy 2B bell, which I might want to sell.
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:12 pm
by ithinknot
Klimchak wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:45 am
2B/Jiggs/old single bore Liberty/605/older tempo with 7.5” nickel [plated] bell are compatible
3B/2B+/606/Benge 170/Tempo with 8” nickel bell are compatible
3B+/607/608/609/Benge 160,175 are compatible
4B/5B/Benge 165 and 190 are compatible
Different tenons between each series, so some mods would have to be done to put a 3B slide on a 3B+ bell section
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:07 pm
by bellend
ithinknot wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:12 pm
Klimchak wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:45 am
2B/Jiggs/old single bore Liberty/605/older tempo with 7.5” nickel [plated] bell are compatible
3B/2B+/606/Benge 170/Tempo with 8” nickel bell are compatible
3B+/607/608/609/Benge 160,175 are compatible
4B/5B/Benge 165 and 190 are compatible
Different tenons between each series, so some mods would have to be done to put a 3B slide on a 3B+ bell section
Vey few of these are compatible
no idea what this guy is talking about, but there again... neither has he!
BellEnd
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:30 pm
by Klimchak
As I am quoted above, the 2B is compatible with the Jiggs, single bore liberty (from the 1930s),the student 605, and the small bell tempo. They all share the same slide bell tenons.
If you read it they way I intended, I am not suggesting that the 3B, 3B+, and 4B are all compatible with the 2B. Each grouping is compatible within the group, but not across the groups.
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:20 pm
by Posaunus
ithinknot wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:12 pm
Klimchak wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:45 am
2B/Jiggs/old single bore Liberty/605/older tempo with 7.5” nickel [plated] bell are compatible
3B/2B+/606/Benge 170/Tempo with 8” nickel bell are compatible
3B+/607/608/609/Benge 160,175 are compatible
4B/5B/Benge 165 and 190 are compatible
Different tenons between each series, so some mods would have to be done to put a 3B slide on a 3B+ bell section
In other words, there are 4 different:"families" of King/Benge tenons, so you can interchange bells and slides within each family ... but not from one family to another.
So if I had a Benge 170 bell, I could use a King 3B slide with it.
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:05 am
by Pezza
It would be good if there was a .565 slide for a King 5B
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:57 am
by Reedman1
Thank you, Klimchak!
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:10 am
by JohnL
Pezza wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:05 am
It would be good if there was a .565 slide for a King 5B
A bass bore slide might work on the King Symphony (1480/1485/early 5B); it has .562"-ish attachment tubing (though the valve is quite small), OTOH, the later version (2105) has .547" attachment tubing, so would likely be something of a mismatch for a full size bass slide.
They made the change around 1977 or so.
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:27 pm
by jorymil
Another bell that will fit a 2B slide: King Cleveland Superior. Got an old one of these a few months back. Was probably the heaviest non-trigger bell I've ever held. _So_ thick. But it had some cool braces
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:20 am
by Matt K
I'm tempted to separate Klimchak's answer and stick it due to the number of times over the years I've had the same question.
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:03 pm
by Reedman1
Matt K wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:20 am
I'm tempted to separate Klimchak's answer and stick it due to the number of times over the years I've had the same question.
Sounds like a good idea. Just make it a title more verbose so it’s easier to grasp on first reading.
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:30 pm
by bellend
Vey few of these are compatible
no idea what this guy is talking about, but there again... neither has he!
BellEnd
My mistake I only glanced at the post, appologies
Bellend
Re: Which bells fit 2B (besides 2B bells)
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:26 pm
by afugate
jorymil wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:27 pm
Another bell that will fit a 2B slide: King Cleveland Superior. Got an old one of these a few months back. Was probably the heaviest non-trigger bell I've ever held. _So_ thick. But it had some cool braces
I picked up a King Cleveland Superior cheap. I tried it on my 2B Jiggs slide. Perfect match. I like the bell better than my early 1950s(?) 2B bell. I think it's due to the larger throat.
--Andy in OKC