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Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:15 pm
by HawaiiTromboneGuy

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:30 pm
by Burgerbob
Interesting. No 169 bell included!

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:42 pm
by HawaiiTromboneGuy
Burgerbob wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:30 pm Interesting. No 169 bell included!
In this case would you rather have the original 169 bell or the Minick bell that it currently has?

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:55 pm
by Burgerbob
Well, having really enjoyed this new 185 :) I think I'd have the original. But who knows. If it's still around, I'll have to drop by Hornguys and give it a toot.

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:59 pm
by Thrawn22
It's a good playing horn. The bell is a 2 piece bell. I'm glad i got to try it.

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:33 am
by SwissTbone
I have been looking for a 169 for quite some time now. So this is tempting.

But I'd be clearly more tempted by one in original condition.

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:21 am
by JoeStanko
I have three 169's - this one at The Horn Guys is more like a 269 - is the Minick two piece gold brass bell soldered or un-soldered? And is the taper like the original 169 which was based on Mr. Kleinhammer's 50B which was either a NY or Mt. Vernon - I've read it was red brass which is rare for a 50 bell.

Looks like the leadpipe has a pull ring - would be interesting to see the Minick leadpipe and how it's labeled.

Joe Stanko

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:16 am
by WGWTR180
HawaiiTromboneGuy wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:42 pm
Burgerbob wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:30 pm Interesting. No 169 bell included!
In this case would you rather have the original 169 bell or the Minick bell that it currently has?
Having played many Minick bells on various valve sets I'd probably rather have the 169 flare. Minick's bells very generally very heavy. But I'd have to try the instrument to make a decision-it's all about "balance" and how the heavier bell would match up with the slide, etc..

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:33 am
by chromebone
Thrawn22 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:59 pm It's a good playing horn. The bell is a 2 piece bell. I'm glad i got to try it.
Are you sure? Any Minick-spun bell I’ve ever seen, including the one on my Minick 88h has been a one piece.
Having played many Minick bells on various valve sets I'd probably rather have the 169 flare. Minick's bells very generally very heavy. But I'd have to try the instrument to make a decision-it's all about "balance" and how the heavier bell would match up with the slide, etc..

Minick’s bells are made of beryllium bronze, I’d describe them as both heavy and and lighter at the same time. The best description I can give from my years of playing my Minick horn is that it’s more “dense” than regular gold brass.

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:35 am
by WGWTR180
chromebone wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:33 am
Thrawn22 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:59 pm It's a good playing horn. The bell is a 2 piece bell. I'm glad i got to try it.
Are you sure? Any Minick-spun bell I’ve ever seen, including the one on my Minick 88h has been a one piece.
Having played many Minick bells on various valve sets I'd probably rather have the 169 flare. Minick's bells very generally very heavy. But I'd have to try the instrument to make a decision-it's all about "balance" and how the heavier bell would match up with the slide, etc..

Minick’s bells are made of beryllium bronze, I’d describe them as both heavy and and lighter at the same time. The best description I can give from my years of playing my Minick horn is that it’s more “dense” than regular gold brass.
YES! Dense is probably a better description. But for me the ones I played sounded one way and were very hard to color. Combined with a densely built valve section they can play like bricks.

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:27 pm
by Thrawn22
chromebone wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:33 am
Thrawn22 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:59 pm It's a good playing horn. The bell is a 2 piece bell. I'm glad i got to try it.
Are you sure? Any Minick-spun bell I’ve ever seen, including the one on my Minick 88h has been a one piece.
Having played many Minick bells on various valve sets I'd probably rather have the 169 flare. Minick's bells very generally very heavy. But I'd have to try the instrument to make a decision-it's all about "balance" and how the heavier bell would match up with the slide, etc..

Minick’s bells are made of beryllium bronze, I’d describe them as both heavy and and lighter at the same time. The best description I can give from my years of playing my Minick horn is that it’s more “dense” than regular gold brass.

Thats the oddity me and mrdeacon were discussing when i showed him this horn.

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:28 pm
by Thrawn22
I'm not sure if my pic shows the seam.

Re: Minick 169 @ Horn Guys

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:09 pm
by Tbarh
Its big.. Thats for sure!