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Beethoven #9

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:43 pm
by ttf_GetzenBassPlayer
Question. Is Beethoven #9, second movement, played with repeats?

Beethoven #9

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:28 pm
by ttf_Posaunus
I expect that it depends on the conductor. 

Better be prepared to count lots of rests! 

Beethoven #9

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:32 pm
by ttf_Burgerbob
Last time I played this, we took all repeats.

I got quite good at mental addition, trying to add up how many measures you rest before entering.

Beethoven #9

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:02 pm
by ttf_BGuttman
I think it's 571 bars.

The Boston Symphony did it for the closing of the Tanglewood season and they didn't take the repeat.  When I did it, we did take the repeat.

The Principal was totally winded at the end of the concert with all those high notes (on his King 3B).

Beethoven #9

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:09 am
by ttf_GetzenBassPlayer
I have performed it twice, both times different. I was wondering if there was a standard.

Beethoven #9

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:39 am
by ttf_BillO
Listen for cues!  Image

Beethoven #9

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:47 pm
by ttf_GetzenBassPlayer
Quote from: BillO on Yesterday at 09:39 AMListen for cues!  Image
Yes, there are some definite big ones. The group I play in does two rehearsals and the concert, so I try to come armed with as much information as possible to rehearsals. We are also doing Festive Overture and a concerto on this concert, so we won't be getting a lot of time to figure things out be repetition.

Beethoven #9

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:56 pm
by ttf_BGuttman
There are cues and false cues.  You can learn to distinguish between them.  I spent some time listening to the movement with my part in front of me.

A kindly conductor may give you a cue.

Beethoven #9

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:06 pm
by ttf_GetzenBassPlayer
Quote from: BGuttman on Yesterday at 07:56 PMThere are cues and false cues.  You can learn to distinguish between them.  I spent some time listening to the movement with my part in front of me.

A kindly conductor may give you a cue.
Not sure what false cues are. There are a lot of G.P. and that fermata thing with dotted rhythm that the horns and tpt play.

Beethoven #9

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:03 am
by ttf_BGuttman
Quote from: GetzenBassPlayer on Yesterday at 11:06 PMNot sure what false cues are. There are a lot of G.P. and that fermata thing with dotted rhythm that the horns and tpt play.

Listen to the music.  You'll see what I mean.

Beethoven #9

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:46 am
by ttf_GetzenBassPlayer
Quote from: BGuttman on Yesterday at 07:03 AMListen to the music.  You'll see what I mean.

I have listened, score studied and played the music. I guess I just don't understand BGuttman speak.

Beethoven #9

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:46 am
by ttf_GetzenBassPlayer
Quote from: BGuttman on Yesterday at 07:03 AMListen to the music.  You'll see what I mean.

I have listened, score studied and played the music. I guess I just don't understand BGuttman speak.