Another successful conversion!

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Another successful conversion!

Post by Amconk » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:07 pm

I had to replace both the inner slides on my 4B slide, and I figured it was a perfect time to convert it to screw-in leadpipes. Thanks to Instrument Innovations for a truly excellent bi-threaded adapter that soldered on the mouthpiece receiver. I currently Have a Shires yellow brass 1 in there and the horn really punches.

I’m only a hobbyist and not a pro-repair tech, but I think my work is getting pretty good!
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Michael Conkey
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Re: Another successful conversion!

Post by Bonearzt » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:58 am

Looks pretty good!

You will probably need to push in your tuning slide quite a bit to compensate for the added length.
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Re: Another successful conversion!

Post by Amconk » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:36 am

Bonearzt wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:58 am
Looks pretty good!

You will probably need to push in your tuning slide quite a bit to compensate for the added length.
Just a bit. I cut it down just a bit before soldering on the adapter so it only added about 1/8” to the horn.
Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Shires Tenor, SS1 bell, TW47 slide, German Brass Seamed tuning slide, standard rotor
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-King Nickel Tempo
-Jin Bao Alto
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Re: Another successful conversion!

Post by Bonearzt » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:56 am

Good thinking!
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Re: Another successful conversion!

Post by Crazy4Tbone86 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:43 pm

Looks like you removed the index finger ring. Maybe that was needed to make room for the new receiver. I approve....I always hated those rings.

If you can find a leadpipe that works well for you, the changes you made should considerably improve that horn. The standard two-piece receiver/leadpipe on a King 4B is ridiculously small compared to most .547 stock leadpipes. I can’t remember the exact measurement, but I think it is about 25 -35 thousandths of an inch more narrow than most other “stock” leadpipes.
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Re: Another successful conversion!

Post by Amconk » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am

Crazy4Tbone86 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:43 pm
Looks like you removed the index finger ring. Maybe that was needed to make room for the new receiver. I approve....I always hated those rings.

If you can find a leadpipe that works well for you, the changes you made should considerably improve that horn. The standard two-piece receiver/leadpipe on a King 4B is ridiculously small compared to most .547 stock leadpipes. I can’t remember the exact measurement, but I think it is about 25 -35 thousandths of an inch more narrow than most other “stock” leadpipes.
It was actually missing when I got the slide. But it would have been removed anyways, I hate them.

I’ve tried a shires 1 and a shires 2 large tenor pipe, and the 1 seems to suit it very well. The 2 was a bit muddy for my liking.
Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Shires Tenor, SS1 bell, TW47 slide, German Brass Seamed tuning slide, standard rotor
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-King Nickel Tempo
-Jin Bao Alto
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Re: Another successful conversion!

Post by Crazy4Tbone86 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:25 pm

The Shires 1.5 is said to be the most "standard" of the Shires leadpipes. Many people think it is the closest Shires leadpipe to the standard Bach 42.
Brian D. Hinkley - Player, Teacher, Technician and Trombone Enthusiast
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