New DE Sym

[Steve335]

This sounds interesting, the new DE Sym mouthpiece range.

http://dougelliottmouthpieces.com/tenortrb.html

Has anyone tried one yet?

[norbie2018]

Heavier cup? More like Greg black? Do tell.

[Burgerbob]

Hmmm... a 104N/G/G8 may be in the cards

[mrdeacon]

For what it's worth... Doug's new "regular" Star cup are fantastic. Doug tweaked the tenor cup ever so slightly and I think they're better than his old design! The bass star cups are also slightly heavier along with the tweaks.

I'm sure the Symphony series is great but it already sounds too heavy for me haha

[Doug Elliott]

Developed in recent months for Aaron Lavere. He primarily uses a 103, H, H10
I'm using it myself right now (SYM mN104, G, G9), what little I play my .547, but I'm totally comfortable playing gigs on it even with no practice on that horn.
The SYM series is intended for the 103 to 106 range of rim sizes, but I will probably add a 102 at some point. So far I am making my standard rim shape, and medium-Narrow which is thinner but not as thin as my Narrow shape.
As with everything I make, the rim and cup need to be the same series, not interchangeable with anything else.
I will have just a few with me at the ATW this week.

[norbie2018]

What makes the Sym series different from the XT series?

[FullPedalTrombonist]

I was just about to ask about the SYM series since I saw it on the site. I love all the tweaking and fine tuning of Doug’s pieces. I don’t play large tenor nearly enough for me to think about equipment again. I like my XT setup with both .547 and .562 tenors first which I also use an old 1-1/2G... so maybe I’ll have a look if I can sneak it into my small bass kit. But I play that pretty seldom, too.

After some leadpipe work on some small horns I may be ordering a C+*, though.

[MTbassbone]

Developed in recent months for Aaron Lavere. He primarily uses a 103, H, H10
I'm using it myself right now (SYM mN104, G, G9), what little I play my .547, but I'm totally comfortable playing gigs on it even with no practice on that horn.
The SYM series is intended for the 103 to 106 range of rim sizes, but I will probably add a 102 at some point. So far I am making my standard rim shape, and medium-Narrow which is thinner but not as thin as my Narrow shape.
As with everything I make, the rim and cup need to be the same series, not interchangeable with anything else.
I will have just a few with me at the ATW this week.

How is it different than the XT series?

[Doug Elliott]

Bass blank, bass threads, overall a little bigger.

[hyperbolica]

Bass blank, bass threads, overall a little bigger.

...which gives the result of...

[Doug Elliott]

More open, bigger sound, more potential volume without getting too bright or out of control. But still easy to play as my stuff always is.

[Neo Bri]

I like mine very, very much. Been playing it a lot. Sounds fantastic and huge! Played on a Shires Tru-bore and a Getzen 3047AF.

[funkhoss]

Bass blank, bass threads, overall a little bigger.

How does the SYM series compare to the EUPH series? Which has the larger interface diameter?

-Funkhoss

[Doug Elliott]

They are very similar but not the same. SYM is a hair smaller interface.

[norbie2018]

Does a bass blank provide more mass when compared to the XT blank?

[Doug Elliott]

Larger diameter threads, so yes.

[hornbuilder]

Darn it Doug!! Now I'm going to have to give you "more" of my money!!!
☺

[Doug Elliott]

I'll trade you a mouthpiece for a horn!

[hornbuilder]

Seems fair. I have an old Conn 6H....