Identification trombone - "ARTIST"

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MStarke
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Identification trombone - "ARTIST"

Post by MStarke » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:08 am

Dear all,

I just bought a trombone off the internet. Condition is unclear, but it was very cheap, so I am okay if it ends up as decoration ;)

The seller didn't have any more information about it. All I know is from the pictures.

It is (mostly) silver plated with an engraving on the bell saying "ARTIST".
Due to this I would expect it to be American or British.
Looks like a small bell, bore and receiver.
Would be great if any of you have an idea of what it is.


Hope you can see the pictures!

As soon as I receive it (hopefully in the next days) it will be interesting to see how it plays.

Thanks everyone!
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MStarke
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"

Post by MStarke » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:20 am

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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"

Post by harrisonreed » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:32 am

Based on the left handed slide, I would suspect that it is not an American or British design. Did it come with white gloves?
MStarke
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"

Post by MStarke » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:09 am

:D

Let's see if it arrives with white gloves ;)
I wouldn't be surprised if it's not more than a trombone-shaped decoration - let's see how my wife reacts.

Pictures that I have until now are not great as you can see and the person selling couldn't say anything regarding functional aspects and condition...
Helmuth Voigt alto
Weril alto
Selmer Bolero
Blessing medium bore tenor
Blessing large bore tenor ("8H")
Copy of historic Piering tenor (made by Schmidt Brass)
Conn 112h bass
Jahn Throja bass
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"

Post by JohnL » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:51 am

Looks like something from the Kraslice/Markneukirchen area. Really small bore - notice how far out the mouthpiece seats?
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"

Post by MStarke » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:09 am

Just want to give a small update after I received it:

There is no clear signs of the manufacturer that I could find.
Maybe I have a better idea of the origin when looking at some bell engravings online...

Regarding bore size it's not too small, considerably bigger than my alto.
I don't have one here, but I would expect it's in the King 2B area.
Mouthpiece receiver is standard small shank, good fit to e.g. Yamaha small shank pieces.
The mouthpiece that came with it simply has a slightly larger shank which doesn't really fit.

The bell material feels really heavy same as the instrument itself.
Sound is surprisingly nice and also "heavy" for such a small instrument.
Response is good in all relevant registers from pedals to high F and above.

So I am overall positive, it's definitely not a low quality instrument although it has quite some signs of use and age.

Only real downside is the slide action. It's slow and noisy - maybe another more intense cleaning will help here.
As obviously slide action is critical, this in the end might be a showstopper for me.

Let's see.

BTW: Including shipping within Germany it was only 100 Euro, so results could have been much worse.
Helmuth Voigt alto
Weril alto
Selmer Bolero
Blessing medium bore tenor
Blessing large bore tenor ("8H")
Copy of historic Piering tenor (made by Schmidt Brass)
Conn 112h bass
Jahn Throja bass
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