FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

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FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:15 am

Hi all!

I came into a Conn 100H tenor trombone and i don't really need it. The sn has it dated 1987. It's a great playing horn and its the best playing 100H I've ever played. It's a bit heavier bell wise than past 100Hs I've played which is probably why i like it. But alas, I already own 2 6Hs and i prefer heavier horns and don't need another. 500 bore horn.

It came with a few dings and a small dent in the bell. The slide has a fleck on the outer and minor ware on the inners, but NO dings or evidence of mistreatment of the slide that i can tell. Slide action at the moment using slide o mix is about an 8/10 if i had to assign and numeric rating to it. It's been serviced at the BONEYARD in Claremont, CA.

It comes with its case (which is in great shape. I'd keep it if it would hold my 6H) and 3 leadpipes. I like the 3 pipe but most players use the 2 pipe.


$750 obo shipped.

I'll also consider trades for other horns. I really need either a .525 Conn 78H (or Conn equivalent) or a .525/.547 dual bore 8H/88H/89H (preferably with removable leadpipe, but im not picky).

Trades that'll tickle my fancy are for (i know i said i don't need .500 bore tenors but i would LOVE to eventually own one of these) 10H, 48H, 32H, a KING 3B+, a dual bore .525/.547 Bach 42 or 42B, or a Conn 70 series bass trombone.

I know my trades may be stretch but its what i need.

Questions can be sent to rosolinofitzpatrick@gmail.com.

Thanks for looking.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Conn100HGuy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:51 am

Does it have a curved brace on the handslide?
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:31 am

Conn100HGuy wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:51 am
Does it have a curved brace on the handslide?
It does not im afraid.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:33 pm

Price lowered.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:37 am

Price reduction bump.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by TromboneGuy2823 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:42 pm

Is it still up for sale?
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:19 pm

Yes it is
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by AEK » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:45 am

Hello! Is Conn 100H lighter than the King 2B or 3B in weight?
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:35 am

AEK wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:45 am
Hello! Is Conn 100H lighter than the King 2B or 3B in weight?
It would depend on the era of the 2B/3B. Its definitely lighter if the king is using a counterweight. Its slightly heavier than the Jiggs Wigham 2B.


So id say overall its lighter and more balanced than kings except for the Jiggs 2B.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by AEK » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:19 am

Thrawn22 wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:35 am
AEK wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:45 am
Hello! Is Conn 100H lighter than the King 2B or 3B in weight?
So id say overall its lighter and more balanced than kings except for the Jiggs 2B.
Oh, then I would definately try one out. I use to use a Jiggs 2B and the only thing I didn't like was the bell flare which was a bit small for me. But the balance and feel of the instrument was great.

Some says Conn 100H have tuning and intonation issues is that right?
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:54 am

AEK wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:19 am
Thrawn22 wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:35 am

So id say overall its lighter and more balanced than kings except for the Jiggs 2B.
Oh, then I would definately try one out. I use to use a Jiggs 2B and the only thing I didn't like was the bell flare which was a bit small for me. But the balance and feel of the instrument was great.

Some says Conn 100H have tuning and intonation issues is that right?
Thats news to me. I have a friend that plays a 100H and never complained about intonation. The few times i played this 100H, it played similar to my 6Hs, just lighter.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by disco » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:07 am

I play a 100h and a 6H. Never had an intonation issue. Lead pipe changes (Brass Ark and Kanstul’s Williams 6) made really nice changes to mine.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by AEK » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:07 am

Do you guys have the historical information of 100H bone? When does this instrument built by Minick and etc. Would you please share your knowledge about it?
Does it still in production today?
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:43 am

AEK wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:07 am
Do you guys have the historical information of 100H bone? When does this instrument built by Minick and etc. Would you please share your knowledge about it?
Does it still in production today?
They still make it.

The short story i heard is conn approached minick in the early 1980s to help design some trombones and then screwed minick out of money after he designed the 100H, 110H and 112H.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by hornbuilder » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:08 pm

AEK. Google is your friend. Look it up!
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:36 pm

hornbuilder wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:08 pm
AEK. Google is your friend. Look it up!
;)
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by AEK » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:07 am

hornbuilder wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:08 pm
AEK. Google is your friend. Look it up!
You are wrong. All the trombone community is my friend and they all are here in the trombone forum.
Google can lead you irrelevant pages often. And also, this forum is established for the trombonists, who are willing to help each other and share their experience and knowledge. Thank you.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Conn100HGuy » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:58 am

Like many of you, I've tried to fill in some of the blanks about the Conn 100H. Mine was built in 1991 and has the curved brace on the handslide as well as a slight curve for the left thumb on the main bell brace. I've see photos of horns assembled before and after mine with neither of these features.

A few years ago, I submitted a photo to the Conn Loyalist, but apparently the site isn't maintained any longer. Do any of you have horns with curved braces? If so, when were they manufactured?
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:12 pm

Conn100HGuy wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:58 am
Like many of you, I've tried to fill in some of the blanks about the Conn 100H. Mine was built in 1991 and has the curved brace on the handslide as well as a slight curve for the left thumb on the main bell brace. I've see photos of horns assembled before and after mine with neither of these features.

A few years ago, I submitted a photo to the Conn Loyalist, but apparently the site isn't maintained any longer. Do any of you have horns with curved braces? If so, when were they manufactured?

The pics on this thread show where the curved bracing is, and its not curved on the bell brace. Unless its custom, none of the earlier conn models had a curved bell brace to my knowledge.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Conn100HGuy » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:48 am

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Actually, the bell brace is slightly curved as I mentioned in my earlier post.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Thrawn22 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:50 am

Conn100HGuy wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:48 am
WIN_20191204_08_48_06_Pro.jpgActually, the bell brace is slightly curved as I mentioned in my earlier post.
Cool dude. The one im selling doesnt have a curved brace.
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Re: FS/FT CONN 100H Tenor trombone

Post by Conn100HGuy » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:50 pm

Here's a link to a blog post about Larry Minick.
https://mominani.blogspot.com/2014/06/man-of-brass.html

Here's the part about his troubles with Conn:

Larry eventually had a falling out with Conn (he told me that he had designed three different but interchangeable lead pipes and sent the prototypes to the factory in Texas. They lost two of them, or messed them up trying to copy them, and asked him to replace them, and he was bugged at their incompetence and refused to do so), and started making his own line of similar instruments, with an improved hand brace and hand-turned and hand-hammered bells.
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