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Post by ttf_janettem » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:32 am

Quote from: marty nichols on Apr 01, 2008, 01:49AMYeah Mike---- you "stretched out"on that one man! Congrats on being a real workman at your trade.


Man,I'm still in awe over that solo! Image Image Image Image Image Image

I wish I could play like that...no holds barred! Image

Whew! Image
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:37 am

Alright, here is my favorite Erling Kroner tune:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JwaB7yrjM3g

Really, really nice stuff.
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Post by ttf_marty nichols » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:35 am

Quote from: pkeijsers on Apr 01, 2008, 07:48AMDo you mean embeddding? I can't find imbed.. However, embedding is the possibility to include a youtube video on your own website. Is this what you meant?

Yes, that's what i meant. Thanks.
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:39 am

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JwaB7yrjM3g&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JwaB7yrjM3g&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

Well, that did not embed it as expected.  Image
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Post by ttf_janettem » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:02 pm

Quote from: bobilleg74 on Apr 01, 2008, 03:01AMDunno if anyone has posted this yet, but how about the British trombonist, Elliot Mason now living in NYC?  In my opinion, the most progressive jazz trombonist in the world today.
http://www.uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dzBqmk8uMpQ

Another baaad m.f. out there! Image Image Image Image Image

Wow!
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Post by ttf_Alex Ashbourne » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:21 pm

Quote from: Frodo on Apr 01, 2008, 10:37AMAlright, here is my favorite Erling Kroner tune:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JwaB7yrjM3g

Really, really nice stuff.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jksq2cVXfto&feature=user

Another great one by this group.
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Post by ttf_DaveAshley » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:28 pm

Maybe someone has posted it already, so sorry in advance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz3qHs_ulzI
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Post by ttf_marty nichols » Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:06 am

Quote from: DaveAshley on Apr 01, 2008, 06:28PMMaybe someone has posted it already, so sorry in advance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz3qHs_ulzI

Now I have to ask myself that awful question again: "why do I own a trombone?"

Gorsh!
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:10 pm

Quote from: marty nichols on Apr 02, 2008, 02:06AMNow I have to ask myself that awful question again: "why do I own a trombone?"

Gorsh!
...indeed!

Here's a couple I put up a couple of months ago.  I have an obsession with recording and picture-taking at every gig...for no other reason than NOT to forget the good times...and the missed notes and such!


Well, You Needn't:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iIITJiGoF8

I Love You:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuB-o7DhxxY

..eh, whatever.

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Post by ttf_anonymous » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:56 pm

Time can really pass you by when you're clicking related vid after related vid.  Some really great playing going on!

We posted an Alessi YouTube video on the Edwards blog yesterday:
http://www.edwards-instruments.com/blog/

J
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Post by ttf_LX » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:06 pm

John Allred with Warren Vache...JA's solo is around 3 minutes in...pretty swingin'!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dCwv2cE ... re=related
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Post by ttf_LX » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:20 pm

and this too...John blows right after Warren...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QoDGKvX ... re=related
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Post by ttf_Bellend » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:31 am

Can't understand why this guy isn't a super star  Image

To me he plays the a** of some more high profile players.

bellEnd
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Post by ttf_Malec Heermans » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:41 am

Ok Wes, you win for creepiest trombone video posted in youtube bonists.
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Post by ttf_WaltTrombone » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:53 am

I wouldn't say it was creepy, but definitely silly. Nice to see that she got to show off HER chops at the end.
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Post by ttf_LX » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:00 am

Quote from: Wes Funderburk on Apr 04, 2008, 10:34AMokay....

here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwql_Xf ... re=related


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www.funderbone.com

The thing that bugs me most about this is that she can really play!! Great sound!!

I know...it's all about "the show" and all that, but haven't we evolved a LITTLE bit past this kind of thing? If she just went out there and played the heck out of that piece...or if the bandleader still did her slide without making kiss-kiss and stuff, the audience might just hear a great player and enjoy THAT. Did he REALLY have to slap her rear right at the end of it?!...JEEZ!!

sigh...

LX

I am curious what women tromboneforum-ites think of this kind of performance. Would YOU be comfortable playing this kind of thing?
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Post by ttf_Malec Heermans » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:12 am

I think it was the hand on the shoulder and the weird facial expressions from the slide operator.
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Post by ttf_Paul Martin » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:20 am

Quote from: Wes Funderburk on Apr 04, 2008, 10:34AMokay....

here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwql_Xf ... re=related


Wes Funderburk
www.funderbone.com


This technique was developed in Germany after WWI, as a means to permit veterans with chops and no arms, and arms but no chops, to continue to play their beloved Volksmusik.

As regards whether we've evolved passed the stage of slapping women's behinds in public, understand that these sorts of Volksmusik shows in Europe are still fairly wide-spread (on TV), and make the Lawrence Welk Show look downright sophisticated.
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:48 am

Quote from: malec on Apr 04, 2008, 10:41AMOk Wes, you win for creepiest trombone video posted in youtube bonists.

WOOHOO!!...

...oh wait.  Is that a good thing? 

My gut instinct tells me that she could beat the snot out of every guy in that band and then buy 'em all a pint.

God bless her....

Wes Funderburk
www.funderbone.com
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Post by ttf_paul1662 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:56 am

watch some of the other videos of this band.
the director has a really unique way of directing.

it is all about being entertaining, isn't it. figuring out ways to fill the chairs, and all of the chairs are filled, so they must be doing something right.

Thanks Wes for finding and sharing that.
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Post by ttf_stonebone » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:43 pm

 :pant:What can you say about John Allred? He's amazing! Always swinging! He's my favorite of the younger (under 45) generation of jazz boners. I had the pleasure of having him in my band for a night. We had to play on the Intrepid in New York on a Tuesday night for a school fundraiser, and I needed a sub. Let's see, all of New York on a Tuesday...whom should I get? I'll try for the guy I dig the most. And John was available.

Needless to say, we brought every piece of music that had a solo in his part, and at the end all the bones soloed on "Things Ain't What They Used To Be." What a joy. Marvelous player and a great person, too. I wish him all the best!
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Post by ttf_janettem » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:30 pm

Quote from: LX on Apr 04, 2008, 11:00AMThe thing that bugs me most about this is that she can really play!! Great sound!!

I know...it's all about "the show" and all that, but haven't we evolved a LITTLE bit past this kind of thing? If she just went out there and played the heck out of that piece...or if the bandleader still did her slide without making kiss-kiss and stuff, the audience might just hear a great player and enjoy THAT. Did he REALLY have to slap her rear right at the end of it?!...JEEZ!!

sigh...

LX

I am curious what women tromboneforum-ites think of this kind of performance. Would YOU be comfortable playing this kind of thing?

I don't like it,though I do like her playing.

That's one of the things I sort of don't want to endure in the clubs. I heard all the stories from my mom about how the women horn players back in the day in L.A. and the Bay Area got treated,and this video brought back images of the sexism they had to deal with.

Unfortunately,sex sells,and it's at the expense of serious musicianship...and the dollar. Image
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Post by ttf_Chris Fidler » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:50 pm

Quote from: Bellend on Apr 04, 2008, 09:31AMCan't understand why this guy isn't a super star  Image

To me he plays the a** of some more high profile players.

bellEnd

Hi Andy,
i have the whole of this gig on video which i took from the German channel 3Sat, a channel which shows jazz every Friday & Saturday late.
John's big feature on this gig was Rosolino's "Violets".......... I cried it was so good!!!

He doesn't have the high profile he deserves because Joe Public wouldn't know a master solo craftsman if he smacked em in the face!!!
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Post by ttf_Graham Martin » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:31 pm

Quote from: Bellend on Apr 04, 2008, 09:31AMCan't understand why this guy isn't a super star  Image

To me he plays the a** of some more high profile players.

bellEnd

Does any trombonist get to be a super star these days? I think he is about as high profile as you can get.

Understandably, there is a lot of Bill in his playing.

Gees, wasn't that Warren Vache flugel something else again! I just love unashamed 'hot' players with techniques to kill for. But they have all paid their dues.
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Post by ttf_MDease » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:04 pm

Thanks for the nice comments about my MySpace video.  I wish he caught some of the tenor trading- though it might be against the rules to post it here! 

Man, Wes... the guy is moving her slide for her !?!?.... then the bottom-pat at the end of the tune- IN FRONT OF EVERYONE???  Maybe a little cultural "tongue-in-cheek" entertainment, but I sure wouldn't want to be the cat explaining this to people. 

I played it for my significant other ( who is a superb alto saxophonist in NYC) and she burnt a hole in my chest with a laser-beam emanating from her eye with one of the fiercest angry-stares I've ever received. 

She can play the trombone for sure.  I enjoyed her sound. 

John Allred- what can you say?  Swinging, soulful, means every note he plays, humble.  That's a baaaaaad dude.  He's got some marvelous influences that jump out of his sound and rhythm- Louis, Big Tea, Prez, JJ, Rosolino, Fontana, Bobby Hackett... many many more.  I dig everybody on that video though, especially Warren Vache and all his smooth stuff. 
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Post by ttf_janettem » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:18 pm

Quote from: MDease on Apr 06, 2008, 01:04PMThanks for the nice comments about my MySpace video.  I wish he caught some of the tenor trading- though it might be against the rules to post it here! 

Man, Wes... the guy is moving her slide for her !?!?.... then the bottom-pat at the end of the tune- IN FRONT OF EVERYONE???  Maybe a little cultural "tongue-in-cheek" entertainment, but I sure wouldn't want to be the cat explaining this to people. 

I played it for my significant other ( who is a superb alto saxophonist in NYC) and she burnt a hole in my chest with a laser-beam emanating from her eye with one of the fiercest angry-stares I've ever received. 

She can play the trombone for sure.  I enjoyed her sound. 

John Allred- what can you say?  Swinging, soulful, means every note he plays, humble.  That's a baaaaaad dude.  He's got some marvelous influences that jump out of his sound and rhythm- Louis, Big Tea, Prez, JJ, Rosolino, Fontana, Bobby Hackett... many many more.  I dig everybody on that video though, especially Warren Vache and all his smooth stuff. 

Yeah man...you're baaaaad! Image

Allred is baaaad too!
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Post by ttf_Paul Martin » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:15 pm

Quote from: MDease on Apr 06, 2008, 01:04PMMan, Wes... the guy is moving her slide for her !?!?.... then the bottom-pat at the end of the tune- IN FRONT OF EVERYONE???  Maybe a little cultural "tongue-in-cheek" entertainment, but I sure wouldn't want to be the cat explaining this to people. 

I played it for my significant other ( who is a superb alto saxophonist in NYC) and she burnt a hole in my chest with a laser-beam emanating from her eye with one of the fiercest angry-stares I've ever received. 

I'm telling you, these German Volksmusik shows make "Hee Haw" seem like Grand Opera.
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Post by ttf_paul1662 » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:55 pm

nice contra- trombone solo, the first one i know of.

i want more.

thx for finding that.
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Post by ttf_Paul Martin » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:01 pm

Quote from: trombone901 on Apr 07, 2008, 02:43PMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv8Ni4xK78E


Good musicians, playing notes correctly, but the "accent" is wrong; at least jazz players have enough sense not to try to play Mahler, orchestral players just can't help themselves in searching for repertoire, though it seems...
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Post by ttf_JP » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:15 pm

Seems like the soloist had some intonation problems. Pretty good technique though, is he the tuba player?
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Post by ttf_trombone901 » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:24 pm

Quote from: paul1662 on Apr 07, 2008, 02:55PMnice contra- trombone solo, the first one i know of.

i want more.

thx for finding that.

your welcome
Quote from: JP on Apr 07, 2008, 03:15PMSeems like the soloist had some intonation problems. Pretty good technique though, is he the tuba player?

i think he is, because when they are playing the normal tuba player is missing i think.
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Post by ttf_janettem » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:04 pm

Quote from: Paul Martin on Apr 07, 2008, 02:15PMI'm telling you, these German Volksmusik shows make "Hee Haw" seem like Grand Opera.

As a woman and a trombonist,I still find it unsettling.

I guess political correctness and sexism still exists in parts of the world. Image
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Post by ttf_Paul Martin » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:31 pm

Quote from: janettem on Apr 07, 2008, 05:04PMAs a woman and a trombonist,I still find it unsettling.

I guess political correctness and sexism still exists in parts of the world. Image


Sometimes side-by-side.
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Post by ttf_janettem » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:42 pm

Quote from: Paul Martin on Apr 07, 2008, 05:31PM
Sometimes side-by-side.

Very sad,isn't it. Image
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Post by ttf_josh roseman » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:16 am

Please to be enjoying:


http://youtube.com/v/gNGHJvnFNcU
this is the first in a series of promo shorts we're putting together for my 11 piece ensemble.
there'll be more playing and less talk in subsequent cuts...
trombones include Curtis Hasselbring, Dana Leong and Jacob Garchik, excellent players, all...
Cheers
Josh-in-Rome
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Post by ttf_zemry » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:31 am

I eagerly anticipate hearing more of your group Josh!
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Post by ttf_zemry » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:32 am

Nice playing, Dave!!
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Post by ttf_LX » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:28 am

DG and JR,

Love what both you guys are doing!!!

Keep it comin'!!

MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC!!

LX
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:35 am

FYI ...my vid was part of a project for a music site called Woozyfly. You can see all the vids and an interview at www.Woozyfly.com/davidgibson .

DG

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Post by ttf_ctingle » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:54 pm

Ya Joshie and DG!!!! 

Soulful, unique, for all the right reasons.....

Keep groovin,
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Post by ttf_trombone901 » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:20 pm

listen to the bass bones in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/v/fv8R4PD6iF4&hl=en

i also like this one

http://www.youtube.com/v/D0QgFgPioxg&hl=en

one more, this one has a miraphone contra in it

http://www.youtube.com/v/37lW-Fuhi8c&hl=en

<<edit- fixed the flash links...>>
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:52 am

Dave & Josh, props to both. Those cuts were fantastic. Thanks to you both for keeping "our" generation in the game.
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:41 am

http://www.woozyfly.com/music-videos/14194

Here's the Woozyfly interview, for anyone interested......

DG
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Post by ttf_zemry » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:03 am

Carl Fontana in funk mode on Peter Gunn!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/dechpnavTyA&feature=related
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Post by ttf_LX » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:50 pm

Nice young European player named Fabrice Millischer playing two movements of the Tomasi...

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=UQZx-L4nDZw

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_OgLevocg

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Post by ttf_ctingle » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:57 am

That's quite a piece of LA studio band history.  I'll see how many I can name, and ask Alex and others to fill in any blanks or correct me.  I'm guessing late-70's/very early '80's.

Tpts
Conte Condoli
John Audino
Pete Condoli

Bones
Carl Fontana
Charlie Loper
?

Saxes
Plas Johnson
Jerome Richardson
Med Flory
?
?

R Section
Frank Capp
?
?
Steve Allen!  Congas(?)

Quote from: zemry on Apr 13, 2008, 09:03AMCarl Fontana in funk mode on Peter Gunn!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/dechpnavTyA&feature=related

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Post by ttf_LX » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:34 am

Chip and all,

Here are more clips from the same Steve Allen show...I am thinking they are from around '82 or '83. I'll ask around...it's basically Terry Gibbs' band. He was Steve Allen's music director for many years.

All these things have a "tv" sound quality to them [bad balance, weird mix, many will find the electric bass annoying--but do check out his LINES!!] and the tune choices are all about prime time [ie, rather pedestrian and corny!], but as it is with this kind of thing...there are still lots of good things to hear and enjoy here anyway!

To answer your questions about players, Chip. Here are my guesses...

Chuck Berghoffer on bass

I think it might be John Leys on bass bone.

The other ww's are Gus Bivona [2nd alto and flute] and one of my former mentors, the late Bill Green on bari and flute.

Here is Plas Johnson playing his "signature tune", "Pink Panther". Check out Pete C's typically sassy lead trumpet on the bridge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBupII3L ... re=related

And Sarah Vaughn and the band's in the pocket version of "Just Friends"!!! Nice chart--might be Broadbent's...?

Bone files: check out a fleeting but VERY good example of Charlie's trademark lead bone playing behind Med's alto solo around 1:47! I'd bet big bucks the tiny fall he puts on that F on the "and" of two in the fourth bar was NOT marked!  Image.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPBqNDjF ... re=related

LX

PS...

===SOAP BOX ALERT===

Incidentally, the only "scatting" SV does here is on a unison line around :52 [insert sigh of relief here  Image], but her ability to improvise on the melody and lyrics is so deep. Why is this element so foreign to so many of today's prominent jazz vocalists?!?!






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