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Post by ttf_David A Bratcher » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:57 am

I've known Med Flory as musician for a number of years but when I was a kind he used to show up as an actor on shows like Andy Griffith and Gomer Pyle and in a couple of movies.  Always seemed to play a real hick.  But hes a fantastic musician.  I believe he was responsible for Supersax, yes?  Gotta love YouTube. 
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:35 pm

Just wondering what being able to sing a melody has to do with getting head shots, getting a manager and getting gigs?

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Post by ttf_Bellend » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:01 pm

Here's a clip of Mark Nightingale in short pants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCd1V7JFXlc



From small acorns...............

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Post by ttf_janettem » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:02 pm

Quote from: LX on Apr 16, 2008, 11:34AMChip and all,

Here are more clips from the same Steve Allen show...I am thinking they are from around '82 or '83. I'll ask around...it's basically Terry Gibbs' band. He was Steve Allen's music director for many years.

All these things have a "tv" sound quality to them [bad balance, weird mix, many will find the electric bass annoying--but do check out his LINES!!] and the tune choices are all about prime time [ie, rather pedestrian and corny!], but as it is with this kind of thing...there are still lots of good things to hear and enjoy here anyway!

To answer your questions about players, Chip. Here are my guesses...

Chuck Berghoffer on bass

I think it might be John Leys on bass bone.

The other ww's are Gus Bivona [2nd alto and flute] and one of my former mentors, the late Bill Green on bari and flute.

Here is Plas Johnson playing his "signature tune", "Pink Panther". Check out Pete C's typically sassy lead trumpet on the bridge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBupII3L ... re=related

And Sarah Vaughn and the band's in the pocket version of "Just Friends"!!! Nice chart--might be Broadbent's...?

Bone files: check out a fleeting but VERY good example of Charlie's trademark lead bone playing behind Med's alto solo around 1:47! I'd bet big bucks the tiny fall he puts on that F on the "and" of two in the fourth bar was NOT marked!  Image.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPBqNDjF ... re=related

LX

PS...

===SOAP BOX ALERT===

Incidentally, the only "scatting" SV does here is on a unison line around :52 [insert sigh of relief here  Image], but her ability to improvise on the melody and lyrics is so deep. Why is this element so foreign to so many of today's prominent jazz vocalists?!?!







Wow,LX!

Those names bring back a lot of memories! Image Image Image

(Up in Heaven,my mom's envious right now...she knew a lot of those cats from the old days! WOW!)
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:21 pm

...Bruce Fowler with Frank Zappa, 1973.

solo starts around 2:23ish.

..he's unstoppable.

da MAN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G36UD0TN ... re=related

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Post by ttf_janettem » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:52 am

Quote from: D Gibson on Apr 16, 2008, 02:35PMJust wondering what being able to sing a melody has to do with getting head shots, getting a manager and getting gigs?

DG

Sadly,it's who you know...the ol' boys club. Image
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Post by ttf_Bob Riddle » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:34 am

Thanks for the Steve Allen show clips LX.Regarding the Sarah Vaughn Clip.Beautiful way of rephrasing the melody with such Soul/Time.Her time throughout is impeccable.Always has been one of my fav' vocalists.
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:16 am

Here's an awesome Dick Nash video of him playing "I Cover the Waterfront".  I don't know if someone posted it already, 31 pages is where I draw the line, so please don't throw a fit if someone already did.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vhqQu_3qPRI

The person who posted this also has some videos of J.J. soloing and J.J. and Kai at Japan.
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:09 am

...Maynard on baritone, valve bone and trumpet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2dOuSl8Qic



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Post by ttf_Hank Lambert » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:05 pm

Quote from: nghtmare007 on Apr 20, 2008, 01:16AMHere's an awesome Dick Nash video of him playing "I Cover the Waterfront".  I don't know if someone posted it already, 31 pages is where I draw the line, so please don't throw a fit if someone already did.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vhqQu_3qPRI

The person who posted this also has some videos of J.J. soloing and J.J. and Kai at Japan.
Yeah, it's been posted before..... but it's such a gem it is worth posting a hundred times more. It doesn't get much better than that. I needed that one today. Thanks.
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:57 pm

31 pages and no mention of SuperTrombone?  Not even an allusion to Jim Pugh?  Well, I won't let it become 32.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ615XHLs4A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWUoY5zoBs
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Post by ttf_Paul Martin » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:01 pm

Quote from: keitherboo on Apr 20, 2008, 02:57PM31 pages and no mention of SuperTrombone?  Not even an allusion to Jim Pugh?  Well, I won't let it become 32.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ615XHLs4A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWUoY5zoBs

Wow, each is like a well-executed, 3-minute elevator ride...

Are there a bit more interesting examples of their stuff?
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Post by ttf_Graham Martin » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:25 pm

Now, now cousin! Image But yes, I prefer a more exciting ride myself.

I am a bit hesitant to put this one up now. Image But I am always searching for recently added videos of my favourite Roy Williams and this one is new-ish. Forget the vocal from Roy, because the trombone solo is very typical of his style - although he plays according to the company he is in. The tune is “I’m Crazy ‘Bout My Baby” - warts an' all! I must say they went to a lot of trouble providing the excellent historical information about Fats Waller.

Although I don’t like the term, I suppose we must still call the style Traditional Jazz. These days you can hear this kind of jazz played all over the world. Historically, I guess it comes out of the Eddie Condon 50s style. Many of the British and American bands turned to this more mainstream approach in the mid 60s.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A51izWfIkfY

So, throw out your tubas and banjos and get with it! I have done just that with my band.

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Post by ttf_RedHotMama » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:16 pm

Quote from: Graham Martin on Apr 20, 2008, 07:25PMSo, throw out your tubas and banjos and get with it!

What, and end up sounding like every other contemporary trad and mainstream band in the world? All playing the same instruments and the same damn tunes? Utter boredom. No thanks.

However, I enjoyed the track. At least, I would have, late at night at a jazz festival after a number of beers.
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Post by ttf_zemry » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:43 am

Quote from: Graham Martin on Apr 20, 2008, 07:25PMNow, now cousin! Image But yes, I prefer a more exciting ride myself.

I am a bit hesitant to put this one up now. Image But I am always searching for recently added videos of my favourite Roy Williams and this one is new-ish. Forget the vocal from Roy, because the trombone solo is very typical of his style - although he plays according to the company he is in. The tune is “I’m Crazy ‘Bout My Baby” - warts an' all! I must say they went to a lot of trouble providing the excellent historical information about Fats Waller.

Although I don’t like the term, I suppose we must still call the style Traditional Jazz. These days you can hear this kind of jazz played all over the world. Historically, I guess it comes out of the Eddie Condon 50s style. Many of the British and American bands turned to this more mainstream approach in the mid 60s.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A51izWfIkfY

So, throw out your tubas and banjos and get with it! I have done just that with my band.



Nice video!!
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Post by ttf_Paul Martin » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:23 am

Quote from: RedHotMama on Apr 20, 2008, 08:16PMWhat, and end up sounding like every other contemporary trad and mainstream band in the world? All playing the same instruments and the same damn tunes? Utter boredom. No thanks.

However, I enjoyed the track. At least, I would have, late at night at a jazz festival after a number of beers.


I hear ya, RHM, but my experiences with the traditional bands is that they have a very slavish approach to their craft, and seem to have memorized Louis Armstrong's every step and meal from about 1925 to 1928, let alone his cornet breaks, which they insist on playing, note for note...now if that isn't utter boredom, I don't know what is!
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:00 pm

here's another tune from our recent session with the organ group.....

DG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9YfIDn6QEY
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Post by ttf_Malec Heermans » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:08 pm

Nice tune Dave. "Out Of Nowhere" changes and you're stretching it in the good way. Were the drums and organ in the same room? I find the isolation thing really challenging, but you guys cruise through it nicely. The horns are tight on the head and lock with the rhythm section pretty nice for the blowing.
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Post by ttf_Chris Fidler » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:59 am

A very young Mark Nightingale kicking *** as a teenager.............. http://youtube.com/watch?v=hCd1V7JFXlc

And today........... http://youtube.com/watch?v=PA6nktsiY04

And here's a nice long solo with Stan Tracey's band............ http://youtube.com/watch?v=LzZgZNEJoGI
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Post by ttf_AxSlinger7String » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:23 am

Dave, was that a quote from "Well You Needn't" about 2:37?
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Post by ttf_WaltTrombone » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:23 am

I'll see your Nightingale, and raise you a Jiggs...

http://www.youtube.com/v/2abD6zvlak0&hl=en

...and a Bart...

http://www.youtube.com/v/J078ML6E2Yw&hl=en


Loved the Nightingale clips, Thanks, Chris!
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Post by ttf_Chris Fidler » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:24 am

Quote from: WaltTrombone on Apr 22, 2008, 05:23AMI'll see your Nightingale, and raise you a Jiggs...


Loved the Nightingale clips, Thanks, Chris!

Just spent the weekend playing with Jiggs and Ack Van Rooyen "A tribute to Billy Strayhorn" with arrangements by Steve Gray................ WONDERFUL......... Image
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Post by ttf_Paul Martin » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:37 am

Quote from: AxSlinger7String on Apr 22, 2008, 05:23AMDave, was that a quote from "Well You Needn't" about 2:37?


Teacher's pet!
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:21 am

Quote from: malec on Apr 21, 2008, 08:08PMNice tune Dave. "Out Of Nowhere" changes and you're stretching it in the good way. Were the drums and organ in the same room? I find the isolation thing really challenging, but you guys cruise through it nicely. The horns are tight on the head and lock with the rhythm section pretty nice for the blowing.

isolation for me and julius.  jared and dion were in the same room, but the organ amp was in a different room.  therefore, organ was only audible via headphone mix.  it was not an ideal situation.  we did the whole session in just over an hour.  we got four complete takes in that time.  it could have been even more if the studio techs had been more prepared for our situation.  but, they do these sessions all the time and have different size groups and instrumentation.  i gave them the information, but they were finishing a session with a punk rock band immediately prior to our session.  once again, not ideal, but we made the best of it. 

glad you like the tune.  i hope you can feel the vibe.  we just did a hit at fat cat and the vibe was stong.  this friday we'll be at cecil's and then thursday may 1st at small's. 

dg
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:30 am

Quote from: AxSlinger7String on Apr 22, 2008, 05:23AMDave, was that a quote from "Well You Needn't" about 2:37?

i'm not sure if it's there or not, but i can guarantee that it was not intentional. 

dg

....also, i attempted to upload the woozyfly interview to youtube, but it's too long.  it is possible to watch all of the vids on youtube and the interview at www.woozyfly.com/davidgibson .  in addition to watching them there, it's possible to download them for your ipod too. 


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Post by ttf_ctingle » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:53 am

Wow - Nightengale's playing on "I Mean You" in Stan Tracy's band........WOW!  Image  Absolutely killin!

Quote from: Chris Fidler on Apr 22, 2008, 04:59AMA very young Mark Nightingale kicking *** as a teenager.............. http://youtube.com/watch?v=hCd1V7JFXlc

And today........... http://youtube.com/watch?v=PA6nktsiY04

And here's a nice long solo with Stan Tracey's band............ http://youtube.com/watch?v=LzZgZNEJoGI

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Post by ttf_Chris Fidler » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:29 pm

Quote from: ctingle on Apr 22, 2008, 10:53AMWow - Nightengale's playing on "I Mean You" in Stan Tracy's band........WOW!  Image  Absolutely killin!


Yup very well thought out solo.
This is Mark's kinda setting. I had him play a small club here a few years ago with a local cream rhythm section.
Man i wish someone had recorded it........ 3 one hour sets and he just got stronger and stronger!!!!!
The somewhat small audience were lapping it up Image



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Post by ttf_anonymous » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:48 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=05iG-DMef5k

Let me know if you have any suggestions, etc.  Image

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Post by ttf_Paul Martin » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:39 pm

Hey RHM, you tuning in?


Check out Teagarden's range of sounds on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkM9fSyqAGI

Listen at around 2:23 to around 2:50, if someone captures the blues better on trombone, or has a better command of time, you let me know who that person is!
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Post by ttf_JP » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:29 pm

Great clip, you are right about the blues punch.

Stars fell on Alabama is a great song. That one and Laura should be trombone features.

Thank you and thanks to the guy that put that Tea Tribute on YouTube. That was a lot of work.
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Post by ttf_Silver3B » Thu May 01, 2008 8:16 am

Disturbing, these guys make it look so easy.  Image
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Post by ttf_zemry » Thu May 01, 2008 1:40 pm

Just slidin' on youtube......Slide Hampton. He is in his mid 70's and still playing at a high level!

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Bp5DaJSA ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/JIQvb33X ... re=related


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Post by ttf_josh roseman » Thu May 01, 2008 9:52 pm

some random goodies from a few years back

http://www.youtube.com/v/YvpiNr5G--o
http://www.youtube.com/v/G10K8wMdvSk

please to enjoy...
Josh

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Post by ttf_josh roseman » Mon May 05, 2008 9:17 am

& there are no trombones in this video, but I like it anyhow:

http://www.youtube.com/v/d_xwUekNgMA
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Post by ttf_ntap » Tue May 06, 2008 12:08 am

breath of fresh air.
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Post by ttf_ctingle » Tue May 06, 2008 1:26 am

Thanks for pointing these out, Zemry, both for Slide's continued greatness and for the band of great players recorded with good production values at a major Euro fest.

What a trumpet section!

How did Purviance get a solo??!!  Especially with Stevie D, Jason, and James Burton sitting in that section....

Quote from: zemry on May 01, 2008, 01:40PMJust slidin' on youtube......Slide Hampton. He is in his mid 70's and still playing at a high level!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp5DaJSA ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIQvb33X ... re=related



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Post by ttf_marty nichols » Tue May 06, 2008 4:55 am

Quote from: WaltTrombone on Apr 22, 2008, 05:23AMI'll see your Nightingale, and raise you a Jiggs...

http://www.youtube.com/v/2abD6zvlak0&hl=en

...and a Bart...

http://www.youtube.com/v/J078ML6E2Yw&hl=en


Loved the Nightingale clips, Thanks, Chris!
That "If He Walked Into My Life" arrangement, including most of Jigg's solo is a representation of Urbie Green's LP from years back, which I have. Wonder why they
reproduced it? Great imitation of Urbie by Jiggs.
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Post by ttf_Chris Fidler » Tue May 06, 2008 5:01 am

Because the gig was "A tribute to Urbie Green"........... Image
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Post by ttf_marty nichols » Tue May 06, 2008 5:19 am

Thanks for that link. I never saw that before.
Quote from: Paul Martin on Apr 29, 2008, 08:39PMHey RHM, you tuning in?


Check out Teagarden's range of sounds on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkM9fSyqAGI

Listen at around 2:23 to around 2:50, if someone captures the blues better on trombone, or has a better command of time, you let me know who that person is!

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Post by ttf_marty nichols » Tue May 06, 2008 5:27 am

Quote from: Chris Fidler on May 06, 2008, 05:01AMBecause the gig was "A tribute to Urbie Green"........... Image

Thanx. I suspected as much, but I first thought it was a recording session and didn't see the point in "covering" the Urbie album. Image
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Post by ttf_zemry » Wed May 07, 2008 6:38 pm

Carl Fontana plays the blues.......don't know if its been posted yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/R0brwIiP ... re=related
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Post by ttf_anonymous » Wed May 07, 2008 8:04 pm

Quote from: ctingle on May 06, 2008, 01:26AMThanks for pointing these out, Zemry, both for Slide's continued greatness and for the band of great players recorded with good production values at a major Euro fest.

What a trumpet section!

How did Purviance get a solo??!!  Especially with Stevie D, Jason, and James Burton sitting in that section....


that's always been douglas' tune. 

dg
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Post by ttf_ctingle » Wed May 07, 2008 8:41 pm

We're got to get Doug taking some improv lessons - and the fact that he owes me money for contracted VJO gigs makes me more willing to state the obvious amongst bone players.

Cheers,

Quote from: D Gibson on May 07, 2008, 08:04PMthat's always been douglas' tune. 

dg

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Post by ttf_anonymous » Thu May 08, 2008 4:30 pm

Quote from: ctingle on May 07, 2008, 08:41PMWe're got to get Doug taking some improv lessons - and the fact that he owes me money for contracted VJO gigs makes me more willing to state the obvious amongst bone players.

Cheers,


Doug and I have discussed this topic and he has become a devotee of the David Baker "How to Play Bebop" volumes.  The last time we discussed it was a week in Tokyo and was followed by a performance at IAJE (rip) in Toronto.  Doug proudly displayed his copies of volumes 1, 2 and 3 to David, who was there. 

Remind me not to owe you money....ouch.

DG
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Post by ttf_ctingle » Thu May 08, 2008 5:56 pm

What can I say?  I'm taking in this beautifully produced footage of a great band full of so many great soloists, and I come to Doug's solo on Manteca and it's simply embarrassing.....but I'm glad to hear he's addressing the issue after so many years. 

The last time I heard him solo with the VJO back in 98 or 99, it was about as uncomfortable as I've been listening to a pro band - same scenario with great players, soloists....oops, here comes a novice-level bass bone solo in the middle of all this greatness!

Obviously a sore subject - unpaid commissions from back in my past life as an agent....combined with a embarrassingly bad solo.....and you get a cranky, belligerent CT.  OK, enough of the dark side....



Quote from: D Gibson on May 08, 2008, 04:30PMDoug and I have discussed this topic and he has become a devotee of the David Baker "How to Play Bebop" volumes.  The last time we discussed it was a week in Tokyo and was followed by a performance at IAJE (rip) in Toronto.  Doug proudly displayed his copies of volumes 1, 2 and 3 to David, who was there. 

Remind me not to owe you money....ouch.

DG

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Post by ttf_WaltTrombone » Thu May 08, 2008 6:19 pm

I judged at a HS big band contest about 4 or 5 years ago, and they had the clinicians play a short set at the end. We did Autumn Leaves and (I think) A Train. Doug held his own, and played better than his own protesting comments would have led you to believe.
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