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Mouthpiece Replating

Post by paulyg » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:08 pm

I know that the gold and silver thicknesses are very small... I'm mostly curious if anyone has experience with mouthpieces playing the same or different after re-plating.

Has anyone perceived a noticeable change?
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by BGuttman » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:36 pm

paulyg wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:08 pm
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Has anyone perceived a noticeable change?
No, but I'm not terribly discerning.
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by Doubler » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:17 pm

A long time ago I had a couple of silver-plated mouthpieces replated in gold. They didn't play any differently, but they sure looked nice, and tarnish became a thing of the past.
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by JLivi » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:28 pm

I was hoping to resurrect this thread.

What is a good place to send a mouthpiece for replating or gold plating?

I’ve heard Dillons Music & Anderson in Elkhart. Anyone with good/bad experiences?
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by BGuttman » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:36 pm

I understand Doug Elliott does this.

My experience with Anderson is that they don't do small orders. You'd have to send a bunch of mouthpieces. Or use someone as a collector to make a suitable order. I remember Benn Hansson offering to add some of mine to an order a few years ago.
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by Schlitz » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:19 pm

BGuttman wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:36 pm
I understand Doug Elliott does this.

My experience with Anderson is that they don't do small orders. You'd have to send a bunch of mouthpieces. Or use someone as a collector to make a suitable order. I remember Benn Hansson offering to add some of mine to an order a few years ago.
The quality at Anderson isn't there anymore. I would agree with Bruce on Doug, and add Dan Oberloh out here in Seattle.
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Post by whitbey » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:10 am

Sometimes you can find a jewelry store that does gold plating. Last one I used was did the best job and was faster then getting your dry cleaning done. Some stores can't plate more then the cup as there tray is too small.

I am allergic to nickle so it was a must to plate. Doug Elliot's are silver plated so I don't gold plate any more.

I found platting only seemed different for the first day or so, then it seemed like the same MP.
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by BGuttman » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:26 am

whitbey wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:10 am
Sometimes you can find a jewelry store that does gold plating. Last one I used was did the best job and was faster then getting your dry cleaning done. Some stores can't plate more then the cup as there tray is too small.

I am allergic to nickle so it was a must to plate. Doug Elliot's are silver plated so I don't gold plate any more.

I found platting only seemed different for the first day or so, then it seemed like the same MP.
Waning: Jewelry platers often plate less than pure gold. Often the plating is mixed with nickel or cobalt. If you are allergic to nickel, make sure the plating is 24 karat gold; no less.

Another thing: jewelry is plated for appearance and can be quite thin. This means that the plating may wear quickly or permit some of the substrate metals to bleed through.
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by whitbey » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:18 pm

BGuttman wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:26 am
whitbey wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:10 am
Sometimes you can find a jewelry store that does gold plating. Last one I used was did the best job and was faster then getting your dry cleaning done. Some stores can't plate more then the cup as there tray is too small.

I am allergic to nickle so it was a must to plate. Doug Elliot's are silver plated so I don't gold plate any more.

I found platting only seemed different for the first day or so, then it seemed like the same MP.
Waning: Jewelry platers often plate less than pure gold. Often the plating is mixed with nickel or cobalt. If you are allergic to nickel, make sure the plating is 24 karat gold; no less.

Another thing: jewelry is plated for appearance and can be quite thin. This means that the plating may wear quickly or permit some of the substrate metals to bleed through.

Yup. This guy used the good stuff. His plating was better then new MP's. He plated several times.
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by sporto » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:28 pm

I recommend Stork Custom Mouthpieces in Vermont for any mpc work including replating
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by boothbyz » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:24 pm

I have personally had good luck with GoldChops, fast turnaround and very reasonable pricing. I had a mouthpiece Gold Plated and the quality seems to be as good as a new mouthpiece.
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by bimmerman » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:37 pm

Growing up, I had a nickel / silver allergy and silver plated mouthpieces wouldn't work for me (seems to have disappeared with age?). My dad would work with the local music shop to get gold plate done; I was a kid and don't remember the logistic particulars. I think any local music shop would know whether there are platers to recommend in your area.

The pieces we had done have lasted quite nicely. I have never noticed a difference in plating affecting playing, then or on the few that I've had done since. The different friction of face-on-plate will affect more, IMO, than the couple microns of applied plating.
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Re: Mouthpiece Replating

Post by CalgaryTbone » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:20 pm

Plus one for Stork. They just gold=plated a mouthpiece for me. Looks and feels great. Turnaround ws quick and the price was reasonable. Highly recommended!

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