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vintage player ID

Post by jacobgarchik » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:02 pm

Anybody recognize this person? Bought at a San Francisco flea market along with a bunch of other 8x10s of classical musicians. No date or information of any kind.
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by Posaunus » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:14 pm

Not very "vintage," given the equipment in the photo.
Looks like Joe Alessi with his Edwards trombone and Griego mouthpiece.
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by harrisonreed » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:50 pm

That isn't Joe, or an Edwards trombone, or any version of an Alessi mouthpiece ...
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by Posaunus » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:40 pm

harrisonreed wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:50 pm
That isn't Joe, or an Edwards trombone, or any version of an Alessi mouthpiece ...
Oh. Sorry, Harrison. Who is it then? Still doesn't look very "vintage" (i.e., old) to me.

Too bad the photo wasn't autographed by the artist!
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by harrisonreed » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:54 pm

I agree, it sorta looks like a stock photo that was made to look vintage...

Then again...

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Time travelers abound! What is Coldplay's singer doing in this 1940s image?

As for the horn, it looks like a Bach 42B, and those have been around for a while! A long while. It could very well be a genuine photo from the mid 50s, and the guy is showing off his brand new 42B. The "No, see? I'm not bald!" haircut also screams 1950s.
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by elmsandr » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:16 pm

Not a 42B. Maybe a Conn. notice the rounded trim on the brace sockets. Could even be an ancient Conn with a string pull F attachment, why else would you have your thumb there?

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Re: vintage player ID

Post by harrisonreed » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:38 pm

True. Looked too wide for a Conn, but I see it now
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by Vegasbound » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:46 am

Could it be a bass bone? Certainly an old one as if you look closely no slide lock
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by Pre59 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:55 am

So, did Bruce Willis's dad play the trombone?
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by FOSSIL » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:11 am

It's a Conn bass with optional wide slide, though I cannot see a TIS in place. What I can see of the wrap looks odd..... the pull slide section looks to be on the side nearest the player's head. Other left field idea.... a very early Williams... just might be a curved hand brace......Mouthpiece.... early Bach or Herrick ???
I see no reason for it to be a faked modern shot, especially as it came with other old pictures.
No idea who it is though.... anyone seen a pic of Spike Wallace ????
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by JohnL » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:24 am

FOSSIL wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:11 am
It's a Conn bass with optional wide slide, though I cannot see a TIS in place.
What I can see of the wrap looks odd..... the pull slide section looks to be on the side nearest the player's head. Other left field idea.... a very early Williams... just might be a curved hand brace......Mouthpiece.... early Bach or Herrick ???
I see no reason for it to be a faked modern shot, especially as it came with other old pictures.
No idea who it is though.... anyone seen a pic of Spike Wallace ????
That does look like a Conn valve cap. It's possible the original TIS mechanism was removed to lighten the slide. I've seen some Wallace-Williams trombones with just a little squeeze clamp at the end of one outer sleeve - though I don't even see that here. Could be Williams cork barrels...

It's too bad the water key isn't in clearer focus; before he developed his trademark, patented water key, Earl used a conventional water key with the little ball on the end. It's just not clear enough for me to be sure whether or not this horn has one.
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Re: vintage player ID

Post by Basbasun » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:11 am

I vote for the horn being a Conn 70 with wide slide, I can se the tis but as John said the mechanism is removed, I did that to on my Kanstul, to lighten the slide. But who is the player?
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Re: vintage player ID

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