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Re: (Historic) German trombones - Collection
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:43 pm
by JCBone
This might be a stupid question but since Vincent Bach was Austrian, Do bachs have charecteristics that are rwminscemt of those found in german or austrian style trombones?
Re: (Historic) German trombones - Collection
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:58 pm
by MStarke
What we typically consider as American trombone today is definitely influenced by German trombone design.
I think this is also something that Edward discusses in his video.
Specifically on Bach I personally don't find them to be very "German".
If looking at American trombones, I would say that Conns more fall into that direction, but of course much closer to Bach than to Kruspe.
Of course this is very very generalized...
Re: (Historic) German trombones - Collection
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:00 pm
by LeTromboniste
JCBone wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:43 pm
This might be a stupid question but since Vincent Bach was Austrian, Do bachs have charecteristics that are rwminscemt of those found in german or austrian style trombones?
I wouldn't really say so. When Vincent Bach started making instruments, it was in the US and the American style was already well on its way to having developped to maturity. His instruments definitely fit in that style.
More generally, in a sense yes, because the American style does integrate some elements of the Germanic style (mixed in with elements from the French and British style). But are Bach instruments more "Germanic" than say, Conns or Holtons or Kings? No.
Re: (Historic) German trombones - Collection
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:03 pm
by JCBone
LeTromboniste wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:00 pm
JCBone wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:43 pm
This might be a stupid question but since Vincent Bach was Austrian, Do bachs have charecteristics that are rwminscemt of those found in german or austrian style trombones?
I wouldn't really say so. When Vincent Bach started making instruments, it was in the US and the American style was already well on its way to having developped to maturity.
More generally, in a sense yes, because the American style does integrate some elements of the Germanic style (mixed in with elements from the French and British style). But are Bach instruments more "Germanic" than say, Conns or Holtons or Kings? No.
That's what I thought. Of course this is a different subject but I have heard that most American French horns are really "German" in the sense that most if them are pretty much copies of their german counterparts.