Identification trombone - "ARTIST"

[MStarke]

Dear all,

I just bought a trombone off the internet. Condition is unclear, but it was very cheap, so I am okay if it ends up as decoration

The seller didn't have any more information about it. All I know is from the pictures.

It is (mostly) silver plated with an engraving on the bell saying "ARTIST".
Due to this I would expect it to be American or British.
Looks like a small bell, bore and receiver.
Would be great if any of you have an idea of what it is.


Hope you can see the pictures!

As soon as I receive it (hopefully in the next days) it will be interesting to see how it plays.

Thanks everyone!

[MStarke]

More pictures

[harrisonreed]

Based on the left handed slide, I would suspect that it is not an American or British design. Did it come with white gloves?

[MStarke]

Let's see if it arrives with white gloves
I wouldn't be surprised if it's not more than a trombone-shaped decoration - let's see how my wife reacts.

Pictures that I have until now are not great as you can see and the person selling couldn't say anything regarding functional aspects and condition...

[JohnL]

Looks like something from the Kraslice/Markneukirchen area. Really small bore - notice how far out the mouthpiece seats?

[MStarke]

Just want to give a small update after I received it:

There is no clear signs of the manufacturer that I could find.
Maybe I have a better idea of the origin when looking at some bell engravings online...

Regarding bore size it's not too small, considerably bigger than my alto.
I don't have one here, but I would expect it's in the King 2B area.
Mouthpiece receiver is standard small shank, good fit to e.g. Yamaha small shank pieces.
The mouthpiece that came with it simply has a slightly larger shank which doesn't really fit.

The bell material feels really heavy same as the instrument itself.
Sound is surprisingly nice and also "heavy" for such a small instrument.
Response is good in all relevant registers from pedals to high F and above.

So I am overall positive, it's definitely not a low quality instrument although it has quite some signs of use and age.

Only real downside is the slide action. It's slow and noisy - maybe another more intense cleaning will help here.
As obviously slide action is critical, this in the end might be a showstopper for me.

Let's see.

BTW: Including shipping within Germany it was only 100 Euro, so results could have been much worse.