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Bass Trumpet

Post by Mv2541 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:23 pm

I just purchased what Kanstul said is the first bass trumpet Zig ever made and I am wondering if anyone has some experience with mouthpieces for these things? I'm assuming I will probably have to go pretty small to make the right sort of sound on it (aka not valve trombone). Maybe something out there was/is made to synergize with the 3V piston horns?
Also if anyone knows any great chamber or solo rep feel free to message me and chat.
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Re: Bass Trumpet

Post by bbocaner » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:55 pm

The piston bass trumpets seem to like something in the 12c neighborhood to sound trumpet-like. Some of the rotary instruments you can get away with a little bigger depending on exactly the design as there is a lot of variation there. There is practically zero solo literature specifically for the bass trumpet, but you can take a lot of the Bb trumpet literature an octave down very successfully. There is a small body of literature for trumpet ensemble that uses a bass trumpet on the bottom.
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Re: Bass Trumpet

Post by CalgaryTbone » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:28 pm

My experience with bass trumpet is fairly limited. I found that when I played it for a Korngold opera here a couple of years ago, that a "C" cup mouthpiece worked best. I started with a 6.5al cup, since some of the part was low, but the horn seemed to come alive with the shallower cup. Our 1st trumpet player noticed the change immediately, and gave a big thumbs-up for the change. I play the same rim on everything, except for the rare times I pick up a bass trombone (in the Bach 4 range). I know some people will tell me that's too large, but it worked for me. I've loaned my instrument out to a couple of players here to play the "Rite of Spring", and they used similar equipment. I initially thought that a slightly deeper cup would help with the lower passages, but not really. The choice of rim size, I would leave to the player's preference/comfort level, but smaller is probably better if you can manage it.

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Re: Bass Trumpet

Post by Vegasbound » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:35 am

Sound concept is the key, remember it's a bass trumpet, not as someone send said a curled up valve trombone, if you go deep then you lose articulation a and it becomes 'woofy'.

This is where when your working and using multiple instruments Doug's system I found gives me what I needed
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Re: Bass Trumpet

Post by Mv2541 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:42 am

All good insight... many thanks already.
I suppose I'll try it with the 7C I'm using now and maybe see if I can go smaller. I have a Jiggs 1A and maybe I'll look into something in the 12-15 range.
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Re: Bass Trumpet

Post by paulyg » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:22 pm

If you can find any of the smaller Bach "A" cup pieces, those may work well. I use a 15A on my alto and it plays much bigger than you'd think, while still retaining the right sound.
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Re: Bass Trumpet

Post by TuckerWoerner » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:01 am

I use a Bach 14D.
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