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jrod93
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Hello All

Looking at having a Bach 50 restored

Need new valves and replated/satin finished?

Any suggestions?
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M&W
Aidan Ritchie, LA area player and teacher
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Scott Sweeney
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bassboneman69 wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:22 pm Scott Sweeney
Sadly had a really bad experience with that shop. He couldn’t figure out how to assemble an Instrument Innovations axial and wrap correctly. It was uneven and full of tension. It looked cool but played horribly. When I pointed the alignment and stress issues out to him, he just shrugged it off and dismissed my concerns that custom jobs are always going to be a bit wonky. I took it to another tech who disassembled and redid the whole thing.

If you care about this horn, I second Matthew Walker at M&W or Todd Clontz, who now owns Thayer. Both are elite craftsmen.
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I have had great success with Scott Sweeney as well; last time I spoke with Matt Walker, he was taking a break from restoration work to concentrate on making his own instruments.
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Hi!
I wasn't going to comment on this thread because it may be seen as inappropriate, but..
To make a slight correction to the previous comment. If a client is looking to have an M&W valve section installed on their instrument, I am happy to do further restoration work as part of that project. I have a Mt Vernon 50B and a Holton 185 in the shop at present for valve section install and full over hauls, as well as a couple of Bach 42's and a Conn 8H.

I have had to make the decision to not take on work that does not include M&W specific aspects. Something like doing a cosmetic overhaul of an old instrument without having a valve section as part of the project. I would recommend Kevin Stiles at Heritage Music Repair for that sort of work.
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Matthew
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Matthew you clarified what specifically you will do. Nothing inappropriate about that at all.
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hornbuilder wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2026 7:18 pm Hi!
I wasn't going to comment on this thread because it may be seen as inappropriate, but..
To make a slight correction to the previous comment. If a client is looking to have an M&W valve section installed on their instrument, I am happy to do further restoration work as part of that project. I have a Mt Vernon 50B and a Holton 185 in the shop at present for valve section install and full over hauls, as well as a couple of Bach 42's and a Conn 8H.

I have had to make the decision to not take on work that does not include M&W specific aspects. Something like doing a cosmetic overhaul of an old instrument without having a valve section as part of the project. I would recommend Kevin Stiles at Heritage Music Repair for that sort of work.
Cheers
Matthew
Thanks, I kinda sorta got it right...
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No harm, no foul.
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Lhbone wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2026 3:47 pm
bassboneman69 wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:22 pm Scott Sweeney
Sadly had a really bad experience with that shop. He couldn’t figure out how to assemble an Instrument Innovations axial and wrap correctly. It was uneven and full of tension. It looked cool but played horribly. When I pointed the alignment and stress issues out to him, he just shrugged it off and dismissed my concerns that custom jobs are always going to be a bit wonky. I took it to another tech who disassembled and redid the whole thing.

If you care about this horn, I second Matthew Walker at M&W or Todd Clontz, who now owns Thayer. Both are elite craftsmen.
This seems odd to me from what I know about Scott's work. "It was uneven and full of tension" but "it looked cool....." ?? And from knowing Scott for quite awhile I cannot imagine him stating that "custom jobs are always going to be a bit wonky." Not saying that you are stating false facts but I just find that hard to believe from seeing Scott Sweeney's other work.
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That is indeed odd. His partial restoration of my 3BF was stunning.
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But I'll stay on topic: I can personally vouch for Matthew's work especially considering you want new valves.
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WGWTR180 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 7:19 am
Lhbone wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2026 3:47 pm

Sadly had a really bad experience with that shop. He couldn’t figure out how to assemble an Instrument Innovations axial and wrap correctly. It was uneven and full of tension. It looked cool but played horribly. When I pointed the alignment and stress issues out to him, he just shrugged it off and dismissed my concerns that custom jobs are always going to be a bit wonky. I took it to another tech who disassembled and redid the whole thing.

If you care about this horn, I second Matthew Walker at M&W or Todd Clontz, who now owns Thayer. Both are elite craftsmen.
This seems odd to me from what I know about Scott's work. "It was uneven and full of tension" but "it looked cool....." ?? And from knowing Scott for quite awhile I cannot imagine him stating that "custom jobs are always going to be a bit wonky." Not saying that you are stating false facts but I just find that hard to believe from seeing Scott Sweeney's other work.
Yeah, he added some custom flare like he usually does that looks cool. That was unrelated about how the actual I.I. parts were assembled and played. Glad you’ve had a great experience.
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Oberoh Woodwind and Brass Works

Don't know how much work you need done, but if it's a complete overhaul you need call them and get it scheduled as they're very backed up on overhauls. For less extensive work, give them a call and ask them how long it would take.
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Heritage Repair in KC.
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