Victory Trombone

[nkoukouvinos]

Hello,

Does anyone have experience with Triumph Series Trombone w. F Attachment large bore?

Thanks!!!

[Posaunus]

Yet another Chinese or east European stencil?

Who / what / where is Victory?

[Doug Elliott]

Sweetwater sells it for $1499. Undoubtedly Chinese.

[nkoukouvinos]

It's an American company.

[officermayo]

Saw a video yesterday about what knife companies still make 100% of their products in America with America made materials. There is only one - Case.

Are there any horn manufacturers doing the same? Bought an extra OG Hamilton bone stand recently and the box is emblazoned with MADE IN VIETNAM. My father would be upset by that.

[Doug Elliott]

Lots of American companies owned by billionaires sell products made in China and other places with cheap labor.
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[MStarke]

Basically all electronics come for a large part from Asia. Almost all affordable toys, clothes, majority of tools, car parts, raw materials etc.

"It's an American company" basically means it's American-owned, buys somewhere else and sells in the US at a substantial margin. Basic globalization - to the benefit largely of the rich countries.

I always find it irritating if people think they can come around this.

[officermayo]

So, nobody can answer my question?

[Doug Elliott]

Is your question "Fo any instrument companies still make 100% of their products in America with America made materials?"

There was a recent thread about that already.... I'll try to link to.it.

The small boutique companies make their own parts or buy parts from American companies.

M&W
Stephens
O'Malley

[Finetales]

They are Chinese.

I've played a few of their horns at NAMM and they vary a lot. The Triumph large bore the OP asked about was nothing special, but the 3B-like .508" Crown trombone was very good. I actually preferred all of the examples they had of that model (so it wasn't just one that was good) at NAMM over the Shires and BAC small bores at the same show. But then the F-attachment version (still .508", but with a Yamaha wrap F attachment) was not a good instrument.

[JohnL]

Is your question "Fo any instrument companies still make 100% of their products in America with America made materials?"

There was a recent thread about that already.... I'll try to link to.it.

You mean this thread?
viewtopic.php?t=43857

The Triumph large bore the OP asked about was nothing special...

How would you compare it to a Y-Fort YSL763L?

[Doug Elliott]

I would expect that every instrument would be variable, as all horns are, but especially the Chinese built horns. Even with Yamahas which are pretty consistent, there are particularly good examples and some not so good. When I was playing a 354 I would try as many as I could find and pick the best one.

[nkoukouvinos]

Thank you very much!!!

[piddlepaddle1]

Saw a video yesterday about what knife companies still make 100% of their products in America with America made materials. There is only one - Case.

Are there any horn manufacturers doing the same? Bought an extra OG Hamilton bone stand recently and the box is emblazoned with MADE IN VIETNAM. My father would be upset by that.

O’Malley is really the only company making an instrument in the U.S. from scratch

[Finetales]

How would you compare it to a Y-Fort YSL763L?

Doesn't compare at all. The Y-Forts are in another league.

I would expect that every instrument would be variable, as all horns are, but especially the Chinese built horns. Even with Yamahas which are pretty consistent, there are particularly good examples and some not so good. When I was playing a 354 I would try as many as I could find and pick the best one.

Agreed, but at least with the .508" there were I think 3 of them at that show and they all played about the same. But the F attachment model could have just been a dud.

[MahlerMusic]

Agreed, but at least with the .508" there were I think 3 of them at that show and they all played about the same. But the F attachment model could have just been a dud.

Did you by chance try their Bass (VTB-TGL241) I can't find a photo but I wonder which design they copied?
It has some interesting specs.
"Tuning: Supports Bb/F/Eb/G/D for maximum versatility"

Also on the topic of American made. My thought is that Labour and Materials are so cheap overseas that in order to made something locally at the same price you would have to being the quality way down to match the price.

Plus some of the photos of the Trombones tell me all I need to know about the company, alone with the everything is on Sale.

[Finetales]

Did you by chance try their Bass (VTB-TGL241) I can't find a photo but I wonder which design they copied?
It has some interesting specs.
"Tuning: Supports Bb/F/Eb/G/D for maximum versatility"

I did try the bass, it was decent. I would personally buy one over a Yamaha 835, but that says more about how much I dislike the 835 than how much I like the Victory. (The 835D is a different story!)

[harrisonreed]

The 835 was so difficult to play for me. There was essentially no resistance in the system, as near as I could tell.

[Tubaaiyue]

"Triumph Series Trombone? I've never heard of this brand in my area.This name sounds very strange
I guess this is another rubbish Jinbao trombone