Conn 1 1/2g
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Conn 1 1/2g
Anyone have experience with this one? Found one in my drawer but never actually tried it. Sold nearly all my mouthpieces but this one is still there. Tried it and its not bad. A little bigger than my Bach Mt vernon 1 1/2g . Not so easy in high register for me. But my high register is not good no matter what. If anyone want it PM me. It has a good sound, and feels easy to play. Especially low register. Wonder if it was inspired by the George Roberts mouthpieces?
Leif
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
I had one way back. Good piece, a bit larger than normal 1 1/2G. Got mine from Joe Stanko and used it on my Minick 180 for a while.
Aidan Ritchie, LA area player and teacher
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
Yes, it's good. Rim is a little bit thin but thats ok for me. I dont think they make it anymore so I keep it in the box. Maybe try it out some more.
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
One of my former colleagues here played that piece for a while. He took some lessons with Jeff Reynolds in LA, and he ended up switching to that based on Jeff's suggestion.
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
Jeff Reynolds put me on that my first semester of college. After a year I went to something else.
To answer your question, no it's not based on George Roberts' mouthpiece(s). George stuck with essentially a Bach 1 1/2G most of his career, owned many of them. When other manufacturers wanted to make a "George Roberts" model mouthpiece they would copy a Bach. The Conn 1 1/2G is kind of an odd setup, dimension-wise, but there might be someone out there who wants one for nostalgia sake.
To answer your question, no it's not based on George Roberts' mouthpiece(s). George stuck with essentially a Bach 1 1/2G most of his career, owned many of them. When other manufacturers wanted to make a "George Roberts" model mouthpiece they would copy a Bach. The Conn 1 1/2G is kind of an odd setup, dimension-wise, but there might be someone out there who wants one for nostalgia sake.
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
I play the Bach Mt Vernon, but this Conn 1 1/2g is not bad. Since I sold nearly all my mouthpieces I think I keep this one. Conn doesn't make any mouthpieces anymore.
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TheConnArtist70H
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
Hi All,
I was going through some recent threads and noticed this one with some positive feedback, however, there was one comment made that I thought may need some clarification ( No offence intended ).
The comment that made me react was "quote".
" To answer your question, no it's not based on George Roberts' mouthpiece(s). George stuck with essentially a Bach 1 1/2G most of his career, owned many of them. When other manufacturers wanted to make a "George Roberts" model mouthpiece they would copy a Bach. The Conn 1 1/2G is kind of an odd setup, dimension-wise, but there might be someone out there who wants one for nostalgia sake ".
Back to my input.......
I do recall reading an article years ago in which this specific mouthpiece was mentioned by Mr. Roberts.
The article was published by Paul Hill ( OTJ Forum ) in November 2004 from a one to one Interview Paul had with Mr. Roberts who discussed everything including mouthpieces. This was George's actual response when asked
" What about mouthpieces, George ? !
I have a mouthpiece that Burt Herrick made for me years and years ago. I played a 1.5G Bach for years and Burt made me an oversized 1.5G that I just loved. I played the Herrick for a long time, then went with Conn for awhile. Conn made a copy of Burt's oversized 1.5G, which I liked. I thought that was just great.
I actually owned one of the myself years ago but sold it. I can say that I found it to actually play better than some of my Bach 1.5g's, it felt a lot bigger and help me create a much warmer / softer sound than the Bach.
I did regret selling it, but as luck would have it, I managed to acquire 5 Bass Trombone mouthpieces from Steve Ferguson that belonged to the prominent LA Bass Trombone player George Thatcher who we sadly lost a few months ago. One of these pieces is a Conn 1.5g which plays like a dream, so I'm really luck to have this and the others which were most likely used on all the Hollywood films George played on. I'm going to have each one engraved with His name and life dates as a memoriam to George ( Rip ).
I hope this helps
Al
I was going through some recent threads and noticed this one with some positive feedback, however, there was one comment made that I thought may need some clarification ( No offence intended ).
The comment that made me react was "quote".
" To answer your question, no it's not based on George Roberts' mouthpiece(s). George stuck with essentially a Bach 1 1/2G most of his career, owned many of them. When other manufacturers wanted to make a "George Roberts" model mouthpiece they would copy a Bach. The Conn 1 1/2G is kind of an odd setup, dimension-wise, but there might be someone out there who wants one for nostalgia sake ".
Back to my input.......
I do recall reading an article years ago in which this specific mouthpiece was mentioned by Mr. Roberts.
The article was published by Paul Hill ( OTJ Forum ) in November 2004 from a one to one Interview Paul had with Mr. Roberts who discussed everything including mouthpieces. This was George's actual response when asked
" What about mouthpieces, George ? !
I have a mouthpiece that Burt Herrick made for me years and years ago. I played a 1.5G Bach for years and Burt made me an oversized 1.5G that I just loved. I played the Herrick for a long time, then went with Conn for awhile. Conn made a copy of Burt's oversized 1.5G, which I liked. I thought that was just great.
I actually owned one of the myself years ago but sold it. I can say that I found it to actually play better than some of my Bach 1.5g's, it felt a lot bigger and help me create a much warmer / softer sound than the Bach.
I did regret selling it, but as luck would have it, I managed to acquire 5 Bass Trombone mouthpieces from Steve Ferguson that belonged to the prominent LA Bass Trombone player George Thatcher who we sadly lost a few months ago. One of these pieces is a Conn 1.5g which plays like a dream, so I'm really luck to have this and the others which were most likely used on all the Hollywood films George played on. I'm going to have each one engraved with His name and life dates as a memoriam to George ( Rip ).
I hope this helps
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TheConnArtist70H
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
TheConnArtist70H wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 7:10 am Hi All,
I was going through some recent threads and noticed this one with some positive feedback, however, there was one comment made that I thought may need some clarification ( No offence intended ).
The comment that made me react was "quote".
" To answer your question, no it's not based on George Roberts' mouthpiece(s). George stuck with essentially a Bach 1 1/2G most of his career, owned many of them. When other manufacturers wanted to make a "George Roberts" model mouthpiece they would copy a Bach. The Conn 1 1/2G is kind of an odd setup, dimension-wise, but there might be someone out there who wants one for nostalgia sake ".
Back to my input.......
I do recall reading an article years ago in which this specific mouthpiece was mentioned by Mr. Roberts.
The article was published by Paul Hill ( OTJ Forum ) in November 2004 from a one to one Interview Paul had with Mr. Roberts who discussed everything including mouthpieces. This was George's actual response when asked
" What about mouthpieces, George ? !
I have a mouthpiece that Burt Herrick made for me years and years ago. I played a 1.5G Bach for years and Burt made me an oversized 1.5G that I just loved. I played the Herrick for a long time, then went with Conn for awhile. Conn made a copy of Burt's oversized 1.5G, which I liked. I thought that was just great.
So from George's comments, Conn did make a Mouthpiece for George, he certainly seems to have tried one of these and from his comment, thought highly of the one he had / used.
I actually owned one of the myself years ago but sold it. I can say that I found it to actually play better than some of my Bach 1.5g's, it felt a lot bigger and help me create a much warmer / softer sound than the Bach.
I did regret selling it, but as luck would have it, I managed to acquire 5 Bass Trombone mouthpieces from Steve Ferguson that belonged to the prominent LA Bass Trombone player George Thatcher who we sadly lost a few months ago. One of these pieces is a Conn 1.5g which plays like a dream, so I'm really luck to have this and the others which were most likely used on all the Hollywood films George played on. I'm going to have each one engraved with His name and life dates as a memoriam to George ( Rip ).
I hope this helpsAl
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nopos
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
I don't believe George played a Conn 1.5, as he had his own signature model, the Conn GR / Roberts model. I have one and it has a significantly larger throat /backbore than standard 1.5 , also the shank sits deeper in the receiver and the rim feels on the larger side for a 1.5.I have a mouthpiece that Burt Herrick made for me years and years ago. I played a 1.5G Bach for years and Burt made me an oversized 1.5G that I just loved. I played the Herrick for a long time, then went with Conn for awhile. Conn made a copy of Burt's oversized 1.5G, which I liked. I thought that was just great.
So from George's comments, Conn did make a Mouthpiece for George, he certainly seems to have tried one of these and from his comment, thought highly of the one he had / used.
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TheConnArtist70H
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
nopos - To be fair, George did not state in the article which Conn model mouthpiece they made for him, or the one he was referring to, he also did not mention it was a 1.5g so you are probably correct based on the fact that you have one of these Conn GR Pieces. I've searched and bought too many mouthpieces over the years but never observed a Conn GR model before, only the Conn 1.5g which also is a lot bigger than the Bach 1.5g, the shank on the one I bought from George Thatcher's own collection sits deep inside most of my vintage horns, it also blows a lot more open as well.
I'll certainly be keeping this one.......
Thanks for your contribution.
I'll certainly be keeping this one.......
Thanks for your contribution.
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Fridge
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
I have a Conn-Roberts model that George actually gave me. Shaved down shank included.
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Re: Conn 1 1/2g
Sorry, I am a little late on this thread. I had the good fortune to purchase a Conn 62H dependent Gen. 2 from my university when they shut down the Music Department for good, June 30, 2025. I have started to use it a great deal in what limited playing I have been doing. I had been using a Faxx 1.5G. Reading this thread, I did notice there was a Conn 1.5G which a couple of my students had used when they played this bass trombone. This was probably the mouthpiece which came with this bass trombone. As far as I can remember, this bass trombone was purchased around 2012 or whenever Conn started making this Gen. 2 bass trombone.
I got the Conn 1.5 out and started playing on it the past couple of days. I took some measurements, with my dial calipers, and it is extremely similar to the Faxx I have been using. My Faxx is a fairly recent model, probably made in Germany.
I think I remember reading on here or the TTF, the original owner of American Way Products (Faxx was part of this company) helped Vincent move all of the Mt. Vernon NY equipment to Elkhart when the Mt. Vernon factory closed. For the help, he gave the original owner, some original MV Bach mouthpieces to copy, with a 1.5G included. This is what the Faxx was based on, as far as measurements. Wish I could remember his name.
Good to read something about that Conn 1.5.
I got the Conn 1.5 out and started playing on it the past couple of days. I took some measurements, with my dial calipers, and it is extremely similar to the Faxx I have been using. My Faxx is a fairly recent model, probably made in Germany.
I think I remember reading on here or the TTF, the original owner of American Way Products (Faxx was part of this company) helped Vincent move all of the Mt. Vernon NY equipment to Elkhart when the Mt. Vernon factory closed. For the help, he gave the original owner, some original MV Bach mouthpieces to copy, with a 1.5G included. This is what the Faxx was based on, as far as measurements. Wish I could remember his name.
Good to read something about that Conn 1.5.
Denny Seifried
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Wittenberg Univ. Dept. of Music
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Bass Trombone-Hauer Swing Band