Bass Trombone Hand Grip
- bbux007
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Bass Trombone Hand Grip
I’m looking for recommendations for a good hand grip or support for bass trombone. I’ve seen a few options like the Edwards Bullet Brace and Neotec Grip, but I’m not sure what works best for comfort and balance during long rehearsals and what would fit on my Mack 831
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- Burgerbob
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
I used a Leather Specialties strap on a similar horn.
Aidan Ritchie, LA area player and teacher
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GabrielRice
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
I use the Leather Specialties strap - simple, relatively inexpensive, and most effective for me.
I'm concerned about how it will work with that ring on the slide though.
I'm concerned about how it will work with that ring on the slide though.
Gabe Rice
Stephens Brass Instruments Artist
Faculty
Boston University School of Music
Kinhaven Music School Senior Session
Bass Trombonist
Rhode Island Philharmonic Orchestra
Vermont Symphony Orchestra
Stephens Brass Instruments Artist
Faculty
Boston University School of Music
Kinhaven Music School Senior Session
Bass Trombonist
Rhode Island Philharmonic Orchestra
Vermont Symphony Orchestra
- ghmerrill
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
I've used a Bullet Brace on a similar horn. An Axe handle would do as well. But each may require a little trial & error time for you to adjust it just right for you. You may also benefit from a counter weight. Hickey's has a generic one: https://www.hickeys.com/search/products/sku079240.php. You may also want to look at a Wise Grip. I just got one and it makes more difference in comfort than I thought it would. (I'd also take that ring off your horn -- which I did to my 7B clone. It's pretty useless.).
Gary Merrill
Getzen 1052FD
DE LB K/K9/110 Lexan
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Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
Getzen 1052FD
DE LB K/K9/110 Lexan
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Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
- sacfxdx
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
I use the neotech on my XO 1240. Takes some adjustment to make it fit the way you want it. When you snap off the grip part it still fits in my case. I tried the bullet brace. It would not fit in case then. Neotech is cheap enough to give it a try.
Steve
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
I use the Neotech on my Greenhoe Bach 50, which looks a lot like your setup. I love it. Once you get it adjusted to your horn and hand, you can just forget about it.
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thatme
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
Similar question but different horn - recommendations for a Yamaha Xeno bass? Have weird pain in my hand when I play for over about 45 minutes and would like to try a grip of some type to see if it goes away.
Rath R9 Bass Trombone (Rotax, Independent)
B&S PT-2P BBb Tuba
B&S PT-2P BBb Tuba
- Tooloud
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
Neotech is putting the weight of a bass trombone too far away from the hand to be comfortable when really using the triggers.
I use an item, where the instrument rests on the back of the hand. But I don't see these things outside Germany, where they are quite common with Thein, Lätzsch, Throja and so on.
I use an item, where the instrument rests on the back of the hand. But I don't see these things outside Germany, where they are quite common with Thein, Lätzsch, Throja and so on.
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thatme
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
Tooloud wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:58 am Neotech is putting the weight of a bass trombone too far away from the hand to be comfortable when really using the triggers.
I use an item, where the instrument rests on the back of the hand. But I don't see these things outside Germany, where they are quite common with Thein, Lätzsch, Throja and so on.
Are you thinking of something like this?
https://www.rathtrombones.com/products/ ... FSlv1yCSAG
Rath R9 Bass Trombone (Rotax, Independent)
B&S PT-2P BBb Tuba
B&S PT-2P BBb Tuba
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Ihcramed
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Posaunus
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
For those who view the Hagmann page translated into English, it is helpful to know that the French word for "paperclip" is trombone. So the robotic translation to English of the French word trombone magically becomes paperclip. [Otherwise the translation is pretty good.]Ihcramed wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2025 12:55 pm Bonsoir
https://www.renehagmann.ch/accessoires/
at the bottom of the page
- ghmerrill
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
Just curious what translator you're using that produces this. I can't seem to get Google Translate to make that move in any kind of reasonable context, and it appears to translate that page correctly. If you give it the single word 'trombone', it lists 'trombone' as the first translation and 'paperclip' as a second possibility. But it seems to translate the entire page correctly.
Gary Merrill
Getzen 1052FD
DE LB K/K9/110 Lexan
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Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
Getzen 1052FD
DE LB K/K9/110 Lexan
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Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
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AtomicClock
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
Firefox's built-in translator (which I always thought was just Google) gives 'paperclip'. And doesn't attempt the solfege pitches.
Our exclusive RM 09 hand rest is adaptable to all paperclips, from tenor to low paperclip. Introduced more than 30 years ago, its success is still confirmed. Its quality is enough for its promotion. Holding your instrument becomes very pleasant and effortless. Our hand rest eliminates much of the tension and tension usually required to operate Fa and/or Re levers.
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Posaunus
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
When I clicked on the Hagmann website, I was offered a popup option to translate the page from French to English.ghmerrill wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:14 pm Just curious what translator you're using that produces this. I can't seem to get Google Translate to make that move in any kind of reasonable context, and it appears to translate that page correctly. If you give it the single word 'trombone', it lists 'trombone' as the first translation and 'paperclip' as a second possibility. But it seems to translate the entire page correctly.
This was labeled as a "Beta" version - don't know whether it came from Hagmann or my [Firefox] browser.
I used that (not Google Translate, which is apparently more sophisticated) and was amused to see trombones referred to as paperclips.
I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip.
- ghmerrill
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
Ah, that would explain it. I'm primarily a Chrome user.AtomicClock wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:50 pm Firefox's built-in translator (which I always thought was just Google) gives 'paperclip'.
Looks like it came from your browser. I had expected to see such a translation option on the page, but I didn't (and don't).Posaunus wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:10 pm When I clicked on the Hagmann website, I was offered a popup option to translate the page from French to English.
This was labeled as a "Beta" version - don't know whether it came from Hagmann or my [Firefox] browser.
That would be great -- but probably too subtle for many to get it. I wonder what the etymology is in French, but haven't looked that up yet.Posaunus wrote: I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip.![]()
Gary Merrill
Getzen 1052FD
DE LB K/K9/110 Lexan
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Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
Getzen 1052FD
DE LB K/K9/110 Lexan
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Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
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AtomicClock
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
This is often the recipe for a good joke. Just make sure that the people who don't get it don't realize they're missing something.
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Posaunus
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
Look at the shape of a typical American paperclip. Note the (rough) resemblance to a trombone.ghmerrill wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:45 pmThat would be great -- but probably too subtle for many to get it. I wonder what the etymology is in French, but haven't looked that up yet.Posaunus wrote: I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip.![]()
This is a French "visual onomatapoeia" (I can't find a real word for that - perhaps I should coin a term.)
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Re: Bass Trombone Hand Grip
Okay, you made me look it up ...Posaunus wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:20 pm Look at the shape of a typical American paperclip. Note the (rough) resemblance to a trombone.
This is a French "visual onomatapoeia" (I can't find a real word for that - perhaps I should coin a term.)![]()
It appears that the term 'trombone' precedes the invention of the paper clip. I had been thinking that the trombone was called that because of its similarity to the paper clip. But apparently the paper clip is called that because of its similarity to the trombone.
'Trombone' was derived from the Italian for 'big trumpet' (a combination of 'tromba' -- trumpet, and 'one' -- large). These usages precede the existence of paperclips.
Gary Merrill
Getzen 1052FD
DE LB K/K9/110 Lexan
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Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
Getzen 1052FD
DE LB K/K9/110 Lexan
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Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)