screw bell case roundup
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Re: screw bell case roundup
BTW, shires has the Marco Magi screw bell case On Sale for $400 at the moment. I just got one, and so far, I think it is awesome.
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Tenor:
King 2B Silvertone-DW 12CS
Shires 1Y,T47,Dual Valve-DW 6BL
Shires 7YLW screw bell, T08-25YC-DW 6BS
Kanstul 1555-DW 6BS
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Thomann TEB480L-Schilke 45B
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King Liberty Silvertone AB-Schilke M2C
King 600-Bach 7C
Tenor:
King 2B Silvertone-DW 12CS
Shires 1Y,T47,Dual Valve-DW 6BL
Shires 7YLW screw bell, T08-25YC-DW 6BS
Kanstul 1555-DW 6BS
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Not sure if I noted this above, but I do have one of these for bass, and I like it, kinda.jbeatenbough wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:12 am BTW, shires has the Marco Magi screw bell case On Sale for $400 at the moment. I just got one, and so far, I think it is awesome.
Slide only works with Shires or Edwards length and width slides. No exceptions. No really, they just won't fit.
Bell section area is great. Does hold on my finger valve a little when I put it in the case, but not enough to cause any issues.
Still want to make something else, but never enough hours in the day to do something better.
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Does anybody have any theories why Protec hasn't gotten into the screw bell game? Seems like they'd be a solid option based on the quality of their current lineup.
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and Bam, SKB, gator, Eastman...most all of them already make screw bell French horn cases.
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I have the bass version! It’s great, crazy small and dense. I was gonna make a separate post comparing it here after my graduation
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Cut bell bass case
What are the best options and any non-standard options? Bonna, Bags, just looking for something different
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Re: Cut bell bass case
OK. Done.harrisonreed wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 4:01 pm Is it possible to just merge and sticky this topic?
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Like a boss. Thanks Bruce!BGuttman wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 4:10 pmOK. Done.harrisonreed wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 4:01 pm Is it possible to just merge and sticky this topic?
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Re: screw bell case roundup
A diversion on this thread motivated me to investigate a perceived issue with my Marcus Bonna screw bell tenor case. While the materials and construction quality seem excellent, in my short time with this case, I have felt anxious about how close the slide and the F-attachment thumb pad come to each other. Thankfully, I have not experienced any damage, but in that thread bbocaner reported damage that they attributed to the case design.
This motivated me to take a more critical look at how the trombone parts fit into the case. The Marcus Bonna screw bell case uses a system of re-positionable foam blocks secured by Velcro-type strips. This allows us to customize the way the bell section is cradled. Until this morning, I had the bell flare as close to the end of the case as possible, under the idea that the flare would move less if the case fell on that end. However, the consequence of that position is that the bell flare raises the bell section higher in the direction of the slide compartment. Adjusting the bell flare+cover an inch towards the right means that it intersects the bell stem where it's narrower. This allows the bell section to sit lower in the base of the case. This also further lowers the thumb pad, giving more clearance to the slide.
The slide is held about 1/2" deep within the lid, and now the F-attachment thumb pad peeks over the rim by only the smallest amount, I'd estimate <1/8". With the bell section secured by the sturdy Velcro strap, any jarring that would decrease that margin would probably result in more widespread damage than merely the thumb paddle denting the slide.
I also asked the manufacturer about my concerns, and André Bonna quickly and kindly addressed my concerns. He confirmed my observation that the slide is inset within the lid and the bell section is inset within the lower portion of the case. He also pointed out that the case design intentionally places the lever near the midpoint of the slide tubes.
All in all, after adjusting the bell flare so the bell stem section sits lower, I've gained some confidence in the design of the Marcus Bonna screw bell case. I will be sure that each time I place the bell stem section in the case that it's snuggled down to the floor as far as possible.
This motivated me to take a more critical look at how the trombone parts fit into the case. The Marcus Bonna screw bell case uses a system of re-positionable foam blocks secured by Velcro-type strips. This allows us to customize the way the bell section is cradled. Until this morning, I had the bell flare as close to the end of the case as possible, under the idea that the flare would move less if the case fell on that end. However, the consequence of that position is that the bell flare raises the bell section higher in the direction of the slide compartment. Adjusting the bell flare+cover an inch towards the right means that it intersects the bell stem where it's narrower. This allows the bell section to sit lower in the base of the case. This also further lowers the thumb pad, giving more clearance to the slide.
The slide is held about 1/2" deep within the lid, and now the F-attachment thumb pad peeks over the rim by only the smallest amount, I'd estimate <1/8". With the bell section secured by the sturdy Velcro strap, any jarring that would decrease that margin would probably result in more widespread damage than merely the thumb paddle denting the slide.
I also asked the manufacturer about my concerns, and André Bonna quickly and kindly addressed my concerns. He confirmed my observation that the slide is inset within the lid and the bell section is inset within the lower portion of the case. He also pointed out that the case design intentionally places the lever near the midpoint of the slide tubes.
All in all, after adjusting the bell flare so the bell stem section sits lower, I've gained some confidence in the design of the Marcus Bonna screw bell case. I will be sure that each time I place the bell stem section in the case that it's snuggled down to the floor as far as possible.
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Jumping on TexHipp's comment, I've made a few mods to the Bona case that, to me, make it feel a bit more secure. Agreed with above comments that it works great but I also find it's got a bit of (quite correctable) wiggleroom. Disclaimer of I've had no issues of my horn getting damaged through a ton of travel and really love the case, also just ever paranoid about damaging my horn.
On the bell flair side, I don't really love that the bell flare is just sitting there empty and could potentially move, so I cut a piece of foam to fit around it to keep it more stable. It also allows a rubber plunger to fit under the flair with everything still fitting flush. Feels more secure to me to have the flair filled and one more thing I can keep in the case.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2SyMJvwVvapEXRxr7
I also find the slide has a decent bit of side to side wiggle room, at least for my fairly narrow conn slide, so I added a small Velcro strip that holds it more tightly flush against the foam stopper that's there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bmpwu7t8iiQKrPST8
Apologies for the general dirtiness of my case- partially a suit case on the road and a cat bed at home!
Has anyone tried the new MB screw bell case that's a bit smaller?
On the bell flair side, I don't really love that the bell flare is just sitting there empty and could potentially move, so I cut a piece of foam to fit around it to keep it more stable. It also allows a rubber plunger to fit under the flair with everything still fitting flush. Feels more secure to me to have the flair filled and one more thing I can keep in the case.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2SyMJvwVvapEXRxr7
I also find the slide has a decent bit of side to side wiggle room, at least for my fairly narrow conn slide, so I added a small Velcro strip that holds it more tightly flush against the foam stopper that's there.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bmpwu7t8iiQKrPST8
Apologies for the general dirtiness of my case- partially a suit case on the road and a cat bed at home!
Has anyone tried the new MB screw bell case that's a bit smaller?
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Absolutely happy with the Bonna
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I don't have a lot of experience with screw bell cases. But I thonk those coming with the Y-Fort trombones are really good:
I'll gladly take more pictures if you want to see more.
I'll gladly take more pictures if you want to see more.
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Any Chance of posting a full review of the Y-forts?SwissTbone wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:58 am I don't have a lot of experience with screw bell cases. But I thonk those coming with the Y-Fort trombones are really good:
I'll gladly take more pictures if you want to see more.
It's been hard to find any information about them besides the website and Aidan's video on them.
Best
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I have played on an Y-Fort yellow brass screw bell exclusively since October. It's definitely a really nice horn. Plays a little clearer than what I'm used from my Bach 42's, but the sound is very malleable - I like that. The valve is really good. No stickiness at all. Not as open as a Thayer, but a good compromise of openness and resistance. I'd like the throw to be a little shorter. But you can get used to it.SamBTbrn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:41 pmAny Chance of posting a full review of the Y-forts?SwissTbone wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:58 am I don't have a lot of experience with screw bell cases. But I thonk those coming with the Y-Fort trombones are really good:
I'll gladly take more pictures if you want to see more.
It's been hard to find any information about them besides the website and Aidan's video on them.
Best
Sam
The slide is ok. A little noisy, but when clean and well lubricated it's still very good.
Bonus points for projection: I really have to be aware of that. Work smarter, not harder.
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Re: screw bell case roundup
What is the smallest case a available? Just got a Yammy 891z with a screwbell.. looking for a case made for a straight small jazz horn.
If anyone knows of a non standard case I'm all ears too
EZ
If anyone knows of a non standard case I'm all ears too
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Not sure if it’s the smallest, but the Marcus Bonna for small tenor is great: https://mbcases.com/portfolio/cases/tro ... z-trombone
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jacobgarchik wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:43 am The smallest cases I believe are the Lawler soft case and the Holton flat case.
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Thanks Mike.. yeah the jazz screwbell looks pretty small, but looking to get out of it a bit cheaper and a bit smaller..muschem wrote: ↑
Not sure if it’s the smallest, but the Marcus Bonna for small tenor is great: https://mbcases.com/portfolio/cases/tro ... z-trombone
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Thanks but I guess maybe I needed to clarify looking for something that can actually be purchasedjacobgarchik wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 10:23 amjacobgarchik wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:43 am The smallest cases I believe are the Lawler soft case and the Holton flat case.
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I think those cases from Peru are cheaper than Bonna and around the same size...I have heard it's relatively easy to order from him but have not done so. I think you will need some Spanish language skills. Maybe a good way to save a $100 or so! his cases look cool.
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022999752?pid=502581
Strongly considering one of these for my 891Z.. will keep y'all informed if I do
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Strongly considering one of these for my 891Z.. will keep y'all informed if I do
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Alibaba sold copy of the Marcus Bonna screw bell. Maybe this is the company that makes the cases for Y-fort?
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... arent=true
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I like mine. It was kind of a splurge, price-wise, but once you've decided to go with a cut bell, you're already pretty invested, so why not? I did have the pleasure of fitting it into one of those weird over-head spaces where they store the first aid gear and other stuff. None of the rollie-bags fit, but my case tucked right in.muschem wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:47 am Not sure if it’s the smallest, but the Marcus Bonna for small tenor is great: https://mbcases.com/portfolio/cases/tro ... z-trombone
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From Littin comes a viola shaped case with a glossy exterior.
https://www.littin-musik.de/littin-bags/?lang=en
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Man, I’d love one of those in Bass trombone. Hard case, latches, tiny. Darned near perfect.
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I currently have a prototype from a big maker... Stay posted
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We're listening
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Still listening
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I recently bought some cases from BrassGalaxy
Bass fiberglass and an all new screw bell for my cut bell Yamaha.
Wait time was 6-12,weeks since all hand made in Spain and Brazil.
Beautifully made too.
There is a new screw bell bag coming very soon from Europe
Bass fiberglass and an all new screw bell for my cut bell Yamaha.
Wait time was 6-12,weeks since all hand made in Spain and Brazil.
Beautifully made too.
There is a new screw bell bag coming very soon from Europe
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Pictures?Inversion64 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:43 am I recently bought some cases from BrassGalaxy
Bass fiberglass and an all new screw bell for my cut bell Yamaha.
Wait time was 6-12,weeks since all hand made in Spain and Brazil.
Beautifully made too.
There is a new screw bell bag coming very soon from Europe