Ooh, when are you over? I could suggest a few.
Most is listed here: https://jazzlondonlive.com/
Alright then, here's what I'd pick from those dates.
Well, we've had them all throughout jazz history, right? JJ Johnson, Phil Wilson, Urbie Green, Carl Fontana, Frank Rosolino, and Bill Watrous have done it, just to name a few. The recordings I've posted on this very website of my own playing are of exactly that configuration.Richard3rd wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:32 am I tried asking a question related to this in another thread I started and got nowhere. So I'll ask it in another way.
Where are the trombone lead groups where the trombone is the only horn? I've been looking. I don't mean the player is part of a big band getting a solo. I mean the small band is built around the trombone. And I don't mean a group of trombones as in a duo, trio or quartet of bones. Just one trombone and any size rhythm section.
But I think that's the point. Nobody's saying they've never existed, just there are vanishingly few and we have to trawl through decades to find enough to list. Check out https://www.ronniescotts.co.uk/find-a-show or https://www.smallslive.com/ and try to play spot the trombone-led small group. Saxes and trumpets a-plenty. Trombones? Not a peep. Or should that be parp?tbdana wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:47 amWell, we've had them all throughout jazz history, right? JJ Johnson, Phil Wilson, Urbie Green, Carl Fontana, Frank Rosolino, and Bill Watrous have done it, just to name a few. The recordings I've posted on this very website of my own playing are of exactly that configuration.Richard3rd wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:32 am I tried asking a question related to this in another thread I started and got nowhere. So I'll ask it in another way.
Where are the trombone lead groups where the trombone is the only horn? I've been looking. I don't mean the player is part of a big band getting a solo. I mean the small band is built around the trombone. And I don't mean a group of trombones as in a duo, trio or quartet of bones. Just one trombone and any size rhythm section.
But if you're asking modernly, there isn't much of it at the moment. Marshall Gilkes has done some. Bob McChesney has, too. And there are others, but it is isolated, and it's not popular. I look at the smooth jazz idiom and wonder where the trombones are. Saxes galore, trumpets, guitars, pianos....not a single smooth jazz group led by a trombonist.
What are you even talking about?LetItSlide wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:02 am I sometimes like listening to smooth jazz, but hearing sax all the time makes it tiresome. Especially soprano sax. That instrument can really grate on my nerves.
I found this and it gives me hope.tbdana wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:47 amWell, we've had them all throughout jazz history, right? JJ Johnson, Phil Wilson, Urbie Green, Carl Fontana, Frank Rosolino, and Bill Watrous have done it, just to name a few. The recordings I've posted on this very website of my own playing are of exactly that configuration.Richard3rd wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:32 am I tried asking a question related to this in another thread I started and got nowhere. So I'll ask it in another way.
Where are the trombone lead groups where the trombone is the only horn? I've been looking. I don't mean the player is part of a big band getting a solo. I mean the small band is built around the trombone. And I don't mean a group of trombones as in a duo, trio or quartet of bones. Just one trombone and any size rhythm section.
But if you're asking modernly, there isn't much of it at the moment. Marshall Gilkes has done some. Bob McChesney has, too. And there are others, but it is isolated, and it's not popular. I look at the smooth jazz idiom and wonder where the trombones are. Saxes galore, trumpets, guitars, pianos....not a single smooth jazz group led by a trombonist.
Excuse me I had to take a long break. But it's all cleaned up now.harrisonreed wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:51 amWhat are you even talking about?LetItSlide wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:02 am I sometimes like listening to smooth jazz, but hearing sax all the time makes it tiresome. Especially soprano sax. That instrument can really grate on my nerves.
harrisonreed wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:51 amWhat are you even talking about?LetItSlide wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:02 am I sometimes like listening to smooth jazz, but hearing sax all the time makes it tiresome. Especially soprano sax. That instrument can really grate on my nerves.
Jeebus. After listening to those two wildly successful performers, suddenly I'm thinking I deserve a billion dollar career.harrisonreed wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:51 amWhat are you even talking about?LetItSlide wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:02 am I sometimes like listening to smooth jazz, but hearing sax all the time makes it tiresome. Especially soprano sax. That instrument can really grate on my nerves.
If you watch at around 1:38 of the first video, you can see the true genius of the faux Kenny. He somehow makes that solo resolve properly.
I think I'm sick again.harrisonreed wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:24 pmIf you watch at around 1:38 of the first video, you can see the true genius of the faux Kenny. He somehow makes that solo resolve properly.
Much better and more sonically interesting than real Kenny in video two, holding the same note for two minutes while people go "oh my god, wow" in the foreground.
Like crowdfunding? And/or busking?
The world of music changed at that point too. Those who danced to jazz got older, while young people found better dancefloor alternatives.