Women Trombonists

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:56 pm

hey so can anyone name any good women trombone players? or is it just a lost cause?

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:27 pm

yeah a lost cause (musicox yer the best)

ttf_RedHotMama · Post by **ttf_RedHotMama** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:05 pm

If you are asking such a question, then you, yourself, are already a lost cause.

*arms tactical nuclear weapon*

Before that reaches you, try Bones Apart.

http://www.bonesapart.co.uk/

But hurry.

*presses red button*

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:35 pm

you have personally offended me! I feel bad for you! I hope if you ever meet Megumi Kanda or any of those other women trombonists out there who are often making more money than other trombone playing aspiring men you say sorry! Thank you dewitt for your sweet comment. If you ever need any advice dear, please email me. I will not let this hamper my aspirations.

anywho, man, i feel like i rant rant for ever on this, grr...AUDREY MORRISION! gr! teaches at wheaton, be sure never to go there! ahh! grr! eekk! BOO! you are being ver unfair to your self dear, how old are u? im not some crazy feminist chick, its just offensive. if this was the same for like, oh i dunno men and flute, well id be just as upset. any gener can play any instrument and be darn good at it! ive actually met professional players who have said to me and I will have them quote it to you if needed, about how sometimes they enjoy listening to women play better than men beacuse of their artistry and passion for performing. not saying that men are not god at being sensitive or that woman are always sensitive, but im just showing you that sometimes women can be BETTER than men! wow, you've got me going. im going to shut up now, i hope thisdoesnt tick alot of people off. trombone rules, yay! um.....

ttf_Thomas Matta · Post by **ttf_Thomas Matta** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:59 pm

Quote from: "tbonechica82663"hey so can anyone name any good women trombone players? or is it just a lost cause?

There are plenty of good female trombonists - but I'm glad you asked the question because we should start a dialog of some of the "girl greats" that play the trombone.

Check out Melba Liston. Very talented trombonist/musician.

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:10 pm

http://www.iwbc2003.ilstu.edu/gallerytrombone.htm

ttf_Unaboner · Post by **ttf_Unaboner** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:21 pm

Ava Ordman. The only trombone soloist who has been able to bring tears to my eyes with a classical solo. Ava played "Kol Nidrei" at one of the Bloomington Brassfests on a tribute concert to Phil Farkas. One of the most moving performances I've heard.

ttf_Orestes · Post by **ttf_Orestes** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:42 pm

Quote from: "Thomas Matta"Quote from: "tbonechica82663"hey so can anyone name any good women trombone players? or is it just a lost cause?

There are plenty of good female trombonists - but I'm glad you asked the question because we should start a dialog of some of the "girl greats" that play the trombone.

Check out Melba Liston. Very talented trombonist/musician.

I'll second Melba Liston. Great arranger as well, and she can sing. I heard her on a Dizzy Gillispie Birks' Works CD reissue. She played her own arrangement of My Reverie, I loved it. She is not well known, and it's a shame because she really had the chops. There is a lot of really interesting information on the web about her.

And, as far as "classical" trombonists are concerned, you have to mention Abbie Conant prominently

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:00 pm

Dr. JoDee Davis and Megumi Kanda are two excellent female trombonists.

ttf_ivanandrade · Post by **ttf_ivanandrade** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:22 pm

Here are a few of great trombone players, women!!!

Abbie Conant (ex-principal trombone, Munich Philharmonic)
Becky Sherian (Pittsburgh Symphony)
Vivian Lee (Montreal Symphony)
Jessica Gustavsson (Part of Christian Lindberg's trombone sextet)
Lisa Albrecht
Susan Addison
Pia Bucher (Slokar Quartet)

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:35 pm

Amanda Stewart

ttf_BFW · Post by **ttf_BFW** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:02 pm

We did have this other topic on the subject a while back.

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:53 pm

Christine Woodcock.

Craig

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:46 am

Annie Whitehead.

Started with all-female big band at age 16, played with Carla Bley, range of jazz and other styles

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:21 am

Jan Kagarice. I heard her play a bass trombone solo at Central Michigan University in early 2003 and was bowled over by her musicianship, her technique and her big, gorgeous sound. The University of North Texas is very fortunate to have her on the faculty.

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:11 am

Jan Kagarice
Abbie Conant
Jodee Davis
Julie Josephson
Angie Hunter (Euph. virtuoso extraordinaire, double on tbn with equal proficiency)

Bones Apart - 4-tet
Prisma - 4-tet

Male or female makes no difference when it comes to great musicianship. Only pig-headed chauvanists place some kind of perceived value on self-created stigma.

ttf_Precious · Post by **ttf_Precious** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:46 am

Quote from: "unaboner"Christine Woodcock.

Yeah, I've heard she is really really good

Rumor has it she is a nice person, and pretty attractive too.

Precious

ttf_Thomas Matta · Post by **ttf_Thomas Matta** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:45 am

tbonechica82663:

Is this helping? We'd love to have you stay active in this topic you started.

Are you a women trombonist, by chance?

ttf_djdekok · Post by **ttf_djdekok** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:32 pm

an enthusiastic second for Ava Ordman. When I was a Senior in high school and playing in the Grand Rapids YSO, she was unflinchingly honest about my sound and how to improve it.

I understand that the principal at the Milwaukee SO is quite good (don't remember her name, tho)

ttf_Duffle · Post by **ttf_Duffle** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:48 pm

Helen Vollum - Principal Trombone with the BBC Symphony.
Katy Pryce - Freelance London player, recently working with the LPO
Bones Apart Players

There are a few around

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:24 pm

Check out Jen Krupa if you get a chance, she's a really cool jazz trombonist. Heard trombonist Shannon Barnett in Australia, she sounded excellent- fat sound, a very open improvisor.

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:31 pm

Seriously, do we need this discussion in the year of 2005????

I wanted to ignore it, but I just can't let the topic starter off the hook here...

What is your problem?

So sad, you should apologize to all of us!

/roywenk

ttf_Thomas Matta · Post by **ttf_Thomas Matta** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:15 pm

Yes, we apparently do need it.

We should give tombonechica a little slack - I suspect she is a young trombonist herself, looking for some female role models. Depsite her "lost cause" comment, let's give her the benefit of the doubt and take her question at face vaule.

And I for one am benefiting from this discussion - hopefully others are, too. I have not heard of some of the players mentioned here I'm getting some ideas for players to check out.

ttf_tbonechica82663 · Post by **ttf_tbonechica82663** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:20 pm

sorry if i offended anyone, i really did not mean to, its just none of my trombone teacher never mention women in their lessons or classes, and i so i decided to look into the information myself, after severel failed google attemps i decided to ask you guys, since you always seem to be helpful/ and or have the answer to everything. thanks for the help, i checked out a few of the women( i espicaly like the bones apart chamber group!)

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:27 pm

You need to read this story of Abbie Conant. Inspiring!!!

http://www.osborne-conant.org/ladies.htm

ttf_ivanandrade · Post by **ttf_ivanandrade** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:54 pm

Quote from: "Dennis K."You need to read this story of Abbie Conant. Inspiring!!!

http://www.osborne-conant.org/ladies.htm

yes it is inspiring!!!

I would also encourage you to buy her CD, it is amazing!!!!

I highly recommend it.

ttf_Thomas Matta · Post by **ttf_Thomas Matta** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:47 pm

Paul McKee must be fuming at me at this very moment, for not being the first to mention his wife JoDee Davis!

Shame on me!

ttf_roywenk · Post by **ttf_roywenk** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:38 pm

tbonechica82663, apology accepted!

I hope you, over time, will discover more women trombonists.

Moderator Thomas M, thanks for keeping the discussion on a nice level!

/roywenk

ttf_Thomas Matta · Post by **ttf_Thomas Matta** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:40 pm

It's a good chat - I hope we keep it up!

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:47 am

I have some great CDs from Nashville Symphony Orchestra-Beethoven's Missa Solemnis and Ives' Symphony No.2, and I've found out that assistant principal trombone of this orchestra is a woman - Susan K. Smith.

ttf_denny seifried · Post by **ttf_denny seifried** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:48 am

Turning to a more regional setting, we, in the SW Ohio area, are very fortunate to be able to work with a very fine female trombonist in our area, by the name fo Linda Landis (OTJ Forum member JazzPro). In fact, I had the pleasure of setting next to Linda, just this Sunday evening.

Linda was the former lead trombonist in the Dayton Jazz Orchestra (she was a charter member of the band when it originally formed-even before my time in the DJO) and is starting her second season as lead trombone in the Columbus Jazz Orchestra, led by Byron Stripling. Linda has also subbed in Diva.

I have worked with Linda for quite a few years, in various trombone settings, and she is the consumate "pro"on trombone, and she is always a great addition to any trombone section!

ttf_JP · Post by **ttf_JP** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:05 am

And in my region, San Diego, Louise Titlow is one of the most working musicians in town. Mostly classical, 1st or 2nd. Great player, just got a Shires TruBore.

April West (a former student of mine, he says proudly

) works during the day as an elementary band teacher and gigs regularly with combos in this area. She is on several of the Tobacco Road CDs.

Monique Walchenbach is a graduate of Eastman. Great trombone player and an even more in demand Euphonium player.

San Diego Symphony has had two principal female trombonists in the past.

To the north, Jeannie Little in the LA area is regarded as one of the best in town, and has a national reputation.

And I have had about 100 girl-type students. Some of whom have won trombone scholarships and are majoring in college. Stephanie Waidelich is a name you will undoubtedly hear in the future.

A few years ago I used to ask the girls in HS why they were switching from flute or sax to low brass, stopped asking because it was always the same answer. The section is a lot more fun and friendly

. Then they fall in love with the sound. Like all of us did.

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:18 am

Quote from: "TheMusicOx" I hope if you ever meet Megumi Kanda or any of those other women trombonists out there who are often making more money than other trombone playing aspiring men you say sorry!

in that case, don't meet dr lori stuntz. she played for a big band called DIVA

ttf_MoominDave · Post by **ttf_MoominDave** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:10 am

How about female Contrabass Trombonists? I can't bring one to mind.

ttf_Orestes · Post by **ttf_Orestes** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:28 pm

Quote from: "denny seifried"Turning to a more regional setting, we, in the SW Ohio area, are very fortunate to be able to work with a very fine female trombonist in our area, by the name fo Linda Landis (OTJ Forum member JazzPro). ...

Denny--

I was wondering who "JazzPro" was when I noted that she was from the Dayton-Columbus area. She had a lot of really good posts on mouthpieces. Anyhow, she did some really top solo work on the Dayton Jazz Orchestra CD that I have so I can definitely vouch for her proficiency on trombone.

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:32 pm

Dr. Jeannie Lee, currently Professor of Trombone at Morehead State University, Morehead KY. She was my lesson provider when we were in Alaska. At that time she was principal trombonist with the Anchorage Symphony. She is as good a trombonist as I ever heard. She plays a great big Edwards, and sounds a lot like Joe Alessi. And she is a really good, patient teacher. I had the privilege of studying with her for about 9 months.

ttf_Thomas Matta · Post by **ttf_Thomas Matta** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:07 pm

Does Jan Kagarice play contrabass trombone?

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:28 pm

Susan K Smith is awesome, she won an ITA solo comp way back when.

ttf_Mudman · Post by **ttf_Mudman** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:32 pm

Susan Smith has a huge sound. Very funny and friendly person--a pleasure to gig with. She used to play in Jay Friedman's Chicagoland trombone choir. Wow.

ttf_BassBoneFL · Post by **ttf_BassBoneFL** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:32 am

How about: Deb Taylor
Lynn Mostoller
Heather Buchmann
Lynda Robbins
Dedee Decker
Laurie Penpraze
Julie Josephson
Or the Standard Bearers :Betty Glover
Dorothy Ziegler

ttf_JP · Post by **ttf_JP** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:55 am

Deb Taylor and Heather Buchman were the principals in SD Sym I mentioned. How is Debra doing, I had heard she had health problems. I hope not, great player and person.

The word around San Diego is that Heather Buchman no longer plays but is becoming a conductor. Anyone have an update? I think she was studying in Michigan.

ttf_BassBoneFL · Post by **ttf_BassBoneFL** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:44 am

Heather is the orchestra conductor at Hamilton College.Deb is principal trombone with the New Mexico Symphony.She's still playing great and seems happy and healthy.

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:53 am

Quote from: "2olbones"Dr. Jeannie Lee, currently Professor of Trombone at Morehead State University, Morehead KY. She was my lesson provider when we were in Alaska. At that time she was principal trombonist with the Anchorage Symphony. She is as good a trombonist as I ever heard. She plays a great big Edwards, and sounds a lot like Joe Alessi. And she is a really good, patient teacher. I had the privilege of studying with her for about 9 months.

I'm studying with her now in Morehead-She's great!

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:47 pm

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ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:29 pm

Christine Woodcock, Annie Whitehead, Sarah Morrow, Lea Nielsen, Jill DeWeese.........The list goes on!

ttf_Woolworth · Post by **ttf_Woolworth** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:52 pm

Mrs. Woolworth has been playing semi-pro for 25 years. She's very good. (*puts on sexist hat*) Easy on the eyes, too!

Ooh, ooh, ooh, and the woman from Airplane who "walks the bar".

ttf_Graham Martin · Post by **ttf_Graham Martin** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:07 pm

Aussie: Nikola Shaw

And what about our own member Kate. I bet she's sounding pretty good these days after all that specialised teaching on bass she is getting in Sydney.

ttf_Stewbones43 · Post by **ttf_Stewbones43** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:59 am

Can't see any mention of Maisie Ringham Principal Trombone with the Halle Orchestra here in the UK post WWII. She was also a top class Conductor in the Brass Band World in the UK.
Cheers
Stewbones

ttf_BGuttman · Post by **ttf_BGuttman** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:00 am

I'd like to add my own personal favorite, Maureen Horgan. Maureen used to be principal of the Nashua (NH) Symphony Orchestra, and was a well-respected teacher in the Boston area.

ttf_Edward_Solomon · Post by **ttf_Edward_Solomon** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:24 am

Quote from: "Stewbones43"Can't see any mention of Maisie Ringham Principal Trombone with the Halle Orchestra here in the UK post WWII. She was also a top class Conductor in the Brass Band World in the UK.
Cheers
Stewbones

...and my teacher. She lives just round the corner from me and is still going strong at over 80 years of age. Still playing, conducting and long may she continue.

There are a few very interesting articles online about Maisie:

Sheila Tracey talks to Maisie Ringham;
Maisie Ringham: The Early Years by Karl Wiggins, her son;
Maisie Ringham - Trombone Soloist.