Another successful conversion!

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Another successful conversion!

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I had to replace both the inner slides on my 4B slide, and I figured it was a perfect time to convert it to screw-in leadpipes. Thanks to Instrument Innovations for a truly excellent bi-threaded adapter that soldered on the mouthpiece receiver. I currently Have a Shires yellow brass 1 in there and the horn really punches.

I’m only a hobbyist and not a pro-repair tech, but I think my work is getting pretty good!
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Re: Another successful conversion!

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Looks pretty good!

You will probably need to push in your tuning slide quite a bit to compensate for the added length.
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Re: Another successful conversion!

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Bonearzt wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:58 am Looks pretty good!

You will probably need to push in your tuning slide quite a bit to compensate for the added length.
Just a bit. I cut it down just a bit before soldering on the adapter so it only added about 1/8” to the horn.
Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist

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-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
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Good thinking!
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Re: Another successful conversion!

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Looks like you removed the index finger ring. Maybe that was needed to make room for the new receiver. I approve....I always hated those rings.

If you can find a leadpipe that works well for you, the changes you made should considerably improve that horn. The standard two-piece receiver/leadpipe on a King 4B is ridiculously small compared to most .547 stock leadpipes. I can’t remember the exact measurement, but I think it is about 25 -35 thousandths of an inch more narrow than most other “stock” leadpipes.
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Crazy4Tbone86 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:43 pm Looks like you removed the index finger ring. Maybe that was needed to make room for the new receiver. I approve....I always hated those rings.

If you can find a leadpipe that works well for you, the changes you made should considerably improve that horn. The standard two-piece receiver/leadpipe on a King 4B is ridiculously small compared to most .547 stock leadpipes. I can’t remember the exact measurement, but I think it is about 25 -35 thousandths of an inch more narrow than most other “stock” leadpipes.
It was actually missing when I got the slide. But it would have been removed anyways, I hate them.

I’ve tried a shires 1 and a shires 2 large tenor pipe, and the 1 seems to suit it very well. The 2 was a bit muddy for my liking.
Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist

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-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
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Re: Another successful conversion!

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The Shires 1.5 is said to be the most "standard" of the Shires leadpipes. Many people think it is the closest Shires leadpipe to the standard Bach 42.
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