BACH 42 Slide

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BACH 42 Slide

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I am playing a 42 G* with a 50 slide. I would like to pick up a standard 42 slide. My question:
Will a Shires or Edwards slide fit the 42 without modifications? It would be nice to have a slide
with removal leadpipes.

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Edwards yes, Shires yes with an asterisk. Shires threads are slightly different, and the taper can be a mismatch as well.

Both are shorter, so be aware tuning will be a bit different.
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Re: BACH 42 Slide

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Burgerbob wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:55 pm Both are shorter, so be aware tuning will be a bit different.
^^^THIS^^^
I had a Bach (@Adian) that I tried 3 different Edwards slides on. I ended up selling it because
A. I could not get the slides to agree with the bell
B. The intonation was weirder than a normal Bach, which is already much weirder than a Shires
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I have an Bach slide that fits my Edwards horns close enough. The slide tenon does not go in all the way and as such the nut threads on just a few threads. Push the tuning slide in a half inch and go.
So if all things are the same then a Edwards slide may be loose.
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The first Edwards horns were intended to be used with a Bach slide. They didn’t start making their own slides until a couple of years in, I think, so in theory, an Edwards slide should be the same scale as a Bach.
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whitbey wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:00 am I have an Bach slide that fits my Edwards horns close enough. The slide tenon does not go in all the way and as such the nut threads on just a few threads. Push the tuning slide in a half inch and go.
So if all things are the same then a Edwards slide may be loose.
I'd say this is uncommon. I've never had an Edwards slide that didn't fit perfectly. What's the combo you have?
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Burgerbob wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 2:19 pm
whitbey wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:00 am I have an Bach slide that fits my Edwards horns close enough. The slide tenon does not go in all the way and as such the nut threads on just a few threads. Push the tuning slide in a half inch and go.
So if all things are the same then a Edwards slide may be loose.
I'd say this is uncommon. I've never had an Edwards slide that didn't fit perfectly. What's the combo you have?
I have 2 Edwards 547 horns. With the extra neckpipe 3 receivers. I have a 547/562 and 525/547 Edwards slides. Then I have a 547/562 Bach slide and a 562 Bach slide from my bass. The 562 slide is close. The 547/562 Bach is good enough.

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Interesting. I would chalk that up to Bach rather than Edwards, though.
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Burgerbob wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 3:06 pm Interesting. I would chalk that up to Bach rather than Edwards, though.
Yep. The Bach's are the variable.
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