Balancing a Conn 100H

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Post by ttf_macbone » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:14 pm

I have a Conn 100h which I really like except for it being front-heavy.  Has anyone added a weight of some type to the tuning slide brace on one of these?   If so, did it work and where can I get one?  I don't care that much about looks.
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Post by ttf_slide advantage » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:24 pm

I have some spare Conn counterweights that would work. They are the modern era type.

$40 shipped.
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Post by ttf_tbathras » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:32 pm

Quote from: slide advantage on Dec 16, 2017, 08:24PMI have some spare Conn counterweights that would work. They are the modern era type.

$40 shipped.

The 100H has the "tootsie roll" weights on the braces - regular counterweights won't fit.
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Post by ttf_slide advantage » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:35 pm

Correct. I forgot that.

You could go to a hardware store and get parts and make your own. I have known some guys who have done that
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Post by ttf_BGuttman » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:54 pm

Mac, I'd bet a Rath R1 "R" counterweight could be made to fit.  And it even customizes to your name Image
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Post by ttf_vegasbound » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:47 am

Have the braces filled with lead!
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Post by ttf_tbathras » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:23 am

Quote from: BGuttman on Dec 16, 2017, 08:54PMMac, I'd bet a Rath R1 "R" counterweight could be made to fit.  And it even customizes to your name Image

I love this!  Image
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Post by ttf_macbone » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:30 pm

Thanks all, Bravo Bruce!  Local shop Osmun may be able to do the lead injection, but I'll look at the Rath bit first.
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Post by ttf_livecat » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:45 pm

I had a 100h for a long time.  Never noticed it front heavy.  But perceptions and expectation will vary.  The lead is a great idea.  But do one of them first.  Then see if the balance works for you. If it’s still front heavy then do the other.    Do the one furthest from the bell first to get the biggest difference. 
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Post by ttf_macbone » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:15 am

So are the Tootsie rolls on the braces hollow? Otherwise I can't see how you could inject lead into them.
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Post by ttf_tbathras » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:30 am

I don't think they are.  Also, the braces are pretty thin, so even if they were hollow, you wouldn't get much lead into them.  I think something in the style of the Rath weight is the best bet.  Other option is you could get some lead solder (plumbing section at the hardware) and wrap it around the braces.  Won't look good, but you can at least see if it helps.
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Post by ttf_leec » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:48 pm

Here is a Red Green solution.  Ducktape a roll of quarters to the rear brace.
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Post by ttf_macbone » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:39 am

LOL! This particular instrument had a great silver plated finish, so not worth it to me to mar it just for a little more balance.  Thanks for all your ideas though.
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Post by ttf_BillO » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:09 pm

Quote from: leec on Dec 19, 2017, 02:48PMHere is a Red Green solution.  Ducktape a roll of quarters to the rear brace.
Do American's know who Red Green is/was?
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Post by ttf_tbathras » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:13 pm

Quote from: BillO on Dec 20, 2017, 12:09PMDo American's know who Red Green is/was?

Keep your stick on the ice.

But I'm from Maine.  A lot of Americans think that's Canada anyway.
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Post by ttf_BGuttman » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:03 pm

Quote from: BillO on Dec 20, 2017, 12:09PMDo American's know who Red Green is/was?

Steven Smith, right?  With a nephew named Harold.  And a fondness for duct tape.  He was in Derry NH (next town over from me) last October.
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Post by ttf_bigbandaxes » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:29 am

On the older Olds Ambassadors the counterweights were mechanically mounted to a bolt that was soldered to the inside curve of the tuning slide crook. Buy a junk Ambassador, harvest the parts, and have someone retro-fit it to your 100H.
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 Image. Yikes
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 Image. Yikes
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