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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59jHJhLf2O8&index=112&list=WL

They discuss the chin between 48:00 and 52:00 of this video.

I did not understand what they were talking about. 

Also, just before that they talk about pressure, and she recommends 1 kilogram. 
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As I watch her, it looks like what I feel like I'm doing in the ultra-low rage (for me, pedal G and lower).  Basically, trying to stuff more lip into the mouthpiece by jutting the chin forward.

But "flex" is not a world I would have used to describe it.   Image

Yeah, there is a muscle movement to it so maybe that's how she thinks of it.
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Quote from: timothy42b on Jan 30, 2018, 07:15PM

Also, just before that they talk about pressure, and she recommends 1 kilogram. 



Does she have a face scale or something?   Image  How is she measuring that?
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I didn't listen to the whole thing.  I probably should.  She does use a lot of pressure. 

I'm always intrigued by how solid a horn can play in the low range on that tiny mouthpiece.  I try to play low without dropping the jaw, though that does work.  It wasn't clear to me if she drops the jaw or just the chin. 
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At 49:20 she is clearly lowering her jaw but she's not playing so we don't know if that is what she really does or merely thinks that's what she does.



There's a lot of stuff there that must be horn player jargon.

"setting on" vs. "setting in" ?
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Setting in (einsetzen) means anchoring the rim on the red of the lower lip.  At least that's how I interpret Farkas. 

Setting on has the lip inside the mouthpiece. 
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Photos and drawings in this one:

wendellworld.com/html/Embouchure.pdf

I think my mother probably "set in."  I have vague memories of some discussion about it.  But she passed 20 years ago, and had been disabled for some time before that, so memories are not clear. 


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Quote from: timothy42b on Jan 31, 2018, 11:49AMSetting in (einsetzen) means anchoring the rim on the red of the lower lip.  At least that's how I interpret Farkas. 

Setting on has the lip inside the mouthpiece. 

Does this have any equivalent for something as large as a bass trombone mouthpiece?
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Post by ttf_robcat2075 »

Quote from: timothy42b on Jan 31, 2018, 11:49AMSetting in (einsetzen) means anchoring the rim on the red of the lower lip.  At least that's how I interpret Farkas. 

Setting on has the lip inside the mouthpiece. 

Does this have any equivalent for something as large as a bass trombone mouthpiece?
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