Robotic midi-controlled trombone?

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Robotic midi-controlled trombone?

Post by jazztonight » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:17 am

Just saw this, an attempt to create a robotic midi-controlled trombone. I don't think we'll be replaced any time soon, but it's certainly an interesting concept: ... midi-file/
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Re: Robotic midi-controlled trombone?

Post by Posaunus » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:53 am

Is this not the ultimate consequence of having too much time on one's hands? :idk:

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Post by mbarbier » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:45 pm

that's awesome! There's also Jeff Synder's feedback trombone project. The current online technical documentation on the setup is a few editions ago, but really cool stuff!
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Re: Robotic midi-controlled trombone?

Post by robcat2075 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:11 pm

I'm going to venture that the artificial latex lips in that device were originally designed and sold for a rather different purpose. :shuffle:

The unappealing result brings to mind a discussion elsewhere on this forum about how the shaping of the oral cavity is an essential part of creating the pitch.

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Re: Robotic midi-controlled trombone?

Post by stewbones43 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:39 am

I wonder if the bell clamp is affecting the resonance of the instrument?
Get rid if that and I bet it would sound just like a trombone. :shuffle:


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Post by marccromme » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:26 pm

This sounds so ugly. No need to fear that robotics will overtake humans soon in trombone playing.
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Re: Robotic midi-controlled trombone?

Post by Wilktone » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:15 am

If that were a human musician playing I would guess that the "lips" are fighting for predominance inside the mouthpiece. The rattle produced and the mouthpiece placement are indicative of that in a real player. Here's an example:

I don't know if that would help with the mechanical trombone, but if they are looking to more closely recreate how a human musician plays the trombone it would be something to consider.
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