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Bucket Mute

Post by walldaja » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:46 am

There are a wide variations of bucket mutes.

What are your "go to" mutes and why?

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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by mbtrombone » Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:04 am

soft-tone neoprene practice mute half hanging over the bell. It is light and I rarely use a bucket. I end up using it more for practice and it stores in my music pouch on my case the rare times I need it.
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by Bonearzt » Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:34 pm

The original HB bucket is the only one I use. Tried a Jo-Ral, but it was too unwieldy for me..

Some people prefer to match across the section.
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by Burgerbob » Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:35 pm

EZ-bucket on small tenor, softone on bass.
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by CalgaryTbone » Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:43 pm

The EZ-bucket and Soulo are both nice. H & B has a classic sound, but is a little slower to put on/take off. JoRal is quick for changes but is very heavy to hold. All have pluses and minuses - depends on which you like the best for sound, convenience and matching others the you play with.

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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by Posaunus » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:13 pm

Burgerbob wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:35 pm
EZ-bucket on small tenor, softone on bass.
Same for me, depending on which band I'm playing with. We like to match the sound through the section.

Always Softone on bass; occasionally Eazy Bucket for tenor if that's what the rest of the section plays.

Jo-Ral is too heavy; Humes & Berg too awkward.
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by MalecHeermans » Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:51 pm

I use the Peter Gane which is the Cadillac of bucket mutes. It offers the convenience of a Joral style mute without the ridiculous weight and terrible sound/intonation.

But if you need that classic bucket sound there is no replacing the H&B.

One last thought - I always find the indication for bucket mute a disappointment from an arranging standpoint. It’s unlikely to offer any substantial color (if you can hear the section at all with buckets in, which is hardly ever) and, perhaps most importantly, the chances that you will have an entire section bring their buckets is a bit like playing the lotto.
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by robcat2075 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:23 pm

On ebay I ordered what was listed as a 10" H&B bucket mute for bass trombone.

What arrived was an 11" H&B euphonium bucket mute. It turns out there is no H&B bucket mute for bass trombone *. Why a euphonium needs a bucket mute, I'm not sure.

It fits after I bent the metal fingers inward. I can recall borrowing and trying to use the tenor version on my horn many years ago but that was a difficult stretch.

I'm not recommending it but the 11" definitely has the bell bucketed for maximum velvet tone.

* the H&B website currently shows none being manufactured or sold by H&B
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by BGuttman » Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:44 pm

I've had several H&B buckets for 9 1/2" bass trombone. I remember seeing a listing for a 10 1/2" (Bach "L" bell). With 4 clips they are a bit of a drag to attach or remove, but on one of my mutes someone had modified one clip so it could be rotated out of the way (drilled out one of the two attaching rivets). That mute was really quick to put on and take off, although the 4th clip was essentially useless.
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by Posaunus » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:31 pm

MalecHeermans wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:51 pm
... I always find the indication for bucket mute a disappointment from an arranging standpoint. It’s unlikely to offer any substantial color (if you can hear the section at all with buckets in, which is hardly ever) and, perhaps most importantly, the chances that you will have an entire section bring their buckets is a bit like playing the lotto.
That doesn't seem to be the case around here. Bucket mutes are frequently called for in many charts for my various big bands (probably more common than cups or plungers; we seldom use straights), and I think a section using them sounds quite nice. We always bring our mutes - no excuse to not have at least a Softone – they're so compact and light you can stuff one in your trombone bell! [And to my apparently unsophisticated ear, they sound pretty decent.]
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by walldaja » Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:44 am

Thanks guys, gives us something to think about.
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Re: Bucket Mute

Post by marccromme » Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:47 pm

This https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php? ... 67#p143733 very small mod makes a HB bucket easy and very fast to clip on and off. Works very well the tenor 3-clip and the bass 4-clip version.

Best bucket ever, great sound, and now also easy to put on and off.
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