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16m with valve

Post by hyperbolica » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:53 pm

Has anyone ever added a valve to a Bach 16m?
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by Neo Bri » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:09 pm

I've heard of several examples of that setup. I don't know if it was done at the factory or not. Sounds like a sweet horn. I think I'd be all in.
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by Doug Elliott » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:45 pm

A friend of mine has one. It was a 36B valve section and a lot of modification was done because it really can't fit on a 16 bell.
I think the factory made that model as a custom order at one time. The bends would have to be tighter than they are on a 36/42 section.
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by Grah » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:00 pm

Yep, I'm not sure about that 'm' but my main horn has always been a Bach 16 slide trombone with an additional valve section. It all came in a case designed to hold the two:

Bach 16 Slide & Valve Case 3.JPG
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To tell the truth, I found it awkward to swap the slide for the valve section on a gig, so I purchased an extra bell section from dj.
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by Neo Bri » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:04 pm

Grah wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:00 pm
Yep, I'm not sure about that 'm' but my main horn has always been a Bach 16 slide trombone with an additional valve section. It all came in a case designed to hold the two:


Bach 16 Slide & Valve Case 3.JPG

I have never played a better horn, either before or since acquiring it!
Pity - the pictures aren't working. I'd love to see that.
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by Neo Bri » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:05 pm

Oh - Grah, we're talking about a 16 with an F-attachment, not a valve trombone. But I do see the picture now.
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by Neo Bri » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:06 pm

Oh - Grah, we're talking about a 16 with an F-attachment, not a valve trombone. But I do see the picture now.
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by Grah » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:09 pm

Oh, I see. Not a fan of F-attachments myself!
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by BGuttman » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:34 am

I guess this would be Back's answer to the King 3B with F.
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Re: 16m with valve

Post by Driswood » Fri May 11, 2018 1:14 pm

A friend of mine has a New York 16B. 16 with an F attachment from the factory. He’s had it since the 50’s, his parents bought it used. Strange setup. Haven’t had a chance to play it.

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