Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

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Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by posaunebone » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:07 am

I just saw that they now offer what appears to be something similar to the Yamaha purple bottle stuff. Anyone tried this yet?

Monster Trombone Slide Cream Lubricant | Take Better Care of your Instrument

Also, does anyone have any general opinions of their lineup over something like hetman or ultra pure?
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by jchiang9 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:58 am

I use their line of valve oils for my euphonium. I like it! I find it builds up gunk a lot slower than hetmans. The tuning slide grease was a little thin for me. But I like think goopy stuff on my slides!

Haven't tried their slide cream though.
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by BHolleyBrass » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:55 am

I've been hoping they'd make this stuff for years. My shop gets Hetman, UltraPure, and Yamaha stuff for free (through the store) for my repair shop to use, but I changed to Monster about six months ago for my XO euphonium and haven't looked back. It handily outlasts the other valve oils. I'd say it's worth a shot. So much that I'm ordering some now...
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by BHolleyBrass » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:20 am

It's sort of like they mixed Trombotine and Yamaha (Yamasnot) together and put it in a valve oil bottle with a slightly larger aperture. So far, my Shires is liking it better than Trombotine, UltraPure, and Super Slick. The feel (after I figured out how much to use) is similar to the Yamaha. I'll update again if anything changes.
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by TheSheriff » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:21 am

BHolleyBrass wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:20 am
It's sort of like they mixed Trombotine and Yamaha (Yamasnot) together and put it in a valve oil bottle with a slightly larger aperture. So far, my Shires is liking it better than Trombotine, UltraPure, and Super Slick. The feel (after I figured out how much to use) is similar to the Yamaha. I'll update again if anything changes.
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by Posaunus » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:58 am

This stuff is apparently so new that it doesn't appear listed on the Monster Oil Website (http://www.MonsterOil.net). :idk: [Though it appears to be hidden, bundled in a "Trombone Care and Cleaning Kit"]
I guess if I want the slide cream separately, I'll have to buy from Amazon (I actually use Smile.Amazon.com, so that part of my purchase goes to my favorite charity) - I don't need the full kit!

But I did enjoy Monster Oil's "Usage and Tips" page:
http://www.monsteroil.net/usage-and-tips/
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by ghmerrill » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:28 pm

The instructions on the Monster Oil site say to apply it DAILY "along the inner slide -- then work the lube in by moving the slide up and down a few times". From my perspective there are a couple of things wrong with this. But in any event, at this point in time, and given how well the Superslick/Superslick Plus/spray bottle routine works for me (and I sure don't have to do anything DAILY except spray it now and then with the water/Hetman's Hydroslide mix), I'm inclined to pass on trying this. At least pending more reports.

(I did like the Yamaha slide lube, but the Superslick approach works a lot better for me and doesn't wash off like the Yamaha lube seemed to. Maybe the Monster Oil slide lube is more in the Yamaha tradition -- though I don't recall needing to apply it daily.)
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by Article7 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:30 pm

Never seen it on their store before but I was running low on lube and ordered a bottle
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by BGuttman » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:33 pm

Article7 wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:30 pm
Never seen it on their store before but I was running low on lube and ordered a bottle
Please let us know how you like it (or don't).
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by Posaunus » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:41 pm

BGuttman wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:33 pm
Please let us know how you like it (or don't).


I threw in a bottle of Monster Trombone Slide Cream Lubricant with my latest Smile.Amazon.com order yesterday ($7.95). When received, I'll try it on a few trombones (I have some older ones) and report. :idk:
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by SimmonsTrombone » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:38 am

I got mine and was surprised that there was no suggested usage either with the product or on the website. I sent an email and quickly got a reply - use a little with a light spray of water. I tried a pea sized drop on each stocking of my Elkhart 88h, worked it in with the outers and gave a light spray of water. Seemed to work just fine for the 30 minutes I was able to practice. We’ll see about longevity.
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by BflatBass » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:21 pm

ghmerrill wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:28 pm
The instructions on the Monster Oil site say to apply it DAILY "along the inner slide -- then work the lube in by moving the slide up and down a few times". From my perspective there are a couple of things wrong with this. But in any event, at this point in time, and given how well the Superslick/Superslick Plus/spray bottle routine works for me (and I sure don't have to do anything DAILY except spray it now and then with the water/Hetman's Hydroslide mix), I'm inclined to pass on trying this. At least pending more reports.

(I did like the Yamaha slide lube, but the Superslick approach works a lot better for me and doesn't wash off like the Yamaha lube seemed to. Maybe the Monster Oil slide lube is more in the Yamaha tradition -- though I don't recall needing to apply it daily.)
I use this method too. Always have. But of all the other trombone players in the 3 bands I'm in, I'm the only one with a water spray bottle at rehearsals and concerts. Back when I was playing when I was younger (early '80's), everyone had a water spray bottle.
I've also found that when I'm behind and the slide get's a little dry and I don't have time to clean and re-lube with cream, I can just run a couple of beads of Yamaha slide lube on each stocking and it goes from a 6 to a 10 and lasts a few days before I need to clean and re-lube with cream again. So I always keep the Yamaha lube in my case for emergencies.

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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by ghmerrill » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:09 am

Or you could take the approach of another guy I've played with: Basically never clean your horn or slide or mouthpiece. At every rehearsal or performance, apply Slide-O-Mix to the slide. Then you're done. He's also in his 80s, and I suspect that this technique is just a kind of transference from using slide oil in the days of his youth to now using Slide-O-Mix. In the past two years I've seen him clean his mouthpiece once -- which is easy to notice because it removes the black coating of coffee from the inside of the bowl.

There is definitely a range of approaches to slide lubrication. :?
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Re: Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

Post by Mikebmiller » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:38 pm

I got a bottle of this to try after reading this thread and I find it to be a bit thicker than Yamaha or SOM Rapid Comfort. I prefer either of those to this. Just too thick for my taste.
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